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What scale is 40k? What to use for Ork Trukks?

happypants — GMT

So eventually I want to do an Ork army and am actually thinking about doing speed freeks because they sound like tons of fun.

I figure I can probably find army truck models and kustum them up orky stile but what scale should I be looking for?

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Symbio Joe — GMT

1:60 if I remember right.

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Clayman — GMT

i used 1:35 and it fit fine

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Hellfury — GMT

1:48th in general fits well with 28+mm figs.

I have seen many ork players use the hallowed sdfkz wwII german chasis to very good use and it fits very well.

Hell, I liked the model so much, I bought the Tamiya company just so I could make mad passionate sweet, sweet love to sdkfz chasis on a perpetual basis.

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ancientsociety — GMT

40K is technically 28mm however GW isn't "true" to this scale and is a bit more "cartoonish" than "actual 28mm" m(confused yet?). As to model scales, 40K is closer to 1:48 (O Gauge in RR) scale.

That being said however, I would strongly advise you to look at 1:35 scale. While some models can look a bit big, this scale is better suited for Ork models (i.e. you can ACTUALLY fit 10 models on a "Trukk"). My Ork Battlewagon is a highly converted Russian WW2-era KV.2 "Gigant", which had the perfect area (with minor mods) to fit the 20 Boyz on it (not to mention a very high-profile, Orky-looking turret. For Trukks, a good base are most armored cars and (with minor mods) most WW2-era German halftracks.

Good luck!

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Hellfury — GMT

like the sdkfz?

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happypants — GMT

WOW! So much cheaper than buying GW models!

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happypants — GMT

See I imagined an ork Trukk something more like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamiya-6X4-Truck-Krupp-Protze-Model-Kit-1-35-SEALED_W0QQitemZ6061201942QQihZ009QQcategoryZ2589QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Super ghetto, screaming ork and would probably be fun to modify with grots hanging off the sides for dear life.

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ancientsociety — GMT

Hellfury: Yes, like an sdKfz. However it would require some modification of the transport section as the sdKfz has a <_> profile. You'd want more of a --_-- profile.

HappyPants: Yes, a KP is a good choice. You could also use a FAMO (although the models are a bit pricey). I've even considered the cab portion of a Dragon Wagon. Personally, I'd like my Trukks to be Oshkosh HEMTTs but it's VERY difficult to find cheap models of them. Italeria has one but it's hard to find.

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syr8766 — GMT

28mm, God's own scale

Check out the Waagh forum; you'll see lots of conversions with 1/35 model kits, from german halftracks to deuce-&-a-halfs,
To just wheel sprues and plasticard thrust together with glue like the tossed aside playthings of a spoiled child.

Tamiya is now making 1/48 WWII kits (though mostly tanks and jeep-equivalents), and those would still be a decent size.

Or you could just end up with a bunch of the 'official' (i.e. too small to haul your garbage) trukks like I did

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ancientsociety — GMT

If you have a lot of the GW "Trukks", you can do what I did and just convert them into Warbuggies. I put a bunch of salvaged 1:24 car engines in the trukk bed, added some exhaust pipes and gas tanks, and mounted a gunner and interchangeable weapon racks.

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syr8766 — GMT

I may just do that: nice suggestion!

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Easy E — GMT

I use card, plasticard, bits, anything else I see laying around, and imagination. Works fairly well.

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Infantryman — GMT

Yeah 1:32 is great for vehicles. GW"s scale isn't my favorite thing to think about, as they're using the "heroics" type models, and their vehicles are a tad small.

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OGGleep — GMT

I would really like to see some of the kitbashed trukks if you guys have pics.

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ancientsociety — GMT

I'll try to post some this week.

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happypants — GMT

So would I be able to field one of those at a tourney?

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ancientsociety — GMT

A kitbashed Trukk? I don't see why not. Every KoS army I've seen at Tourneys includes loads of kitbashed and scrathbuilt stuff. If you have any problems with being "allowed" to use them simply state that if GW made Trukks that actually FIT 10 Boyz, then you'd play with them. Until that time, you play with KBed Trukks.

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OGGleep — GMT

I don't go to many, but from what I have heard, the general reply is "It depends on the people that orginize the event"

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Shadow_Strike — GMT

If it's really big and bulky you should ask before hand (big=terrain/shooting way blockage), and show them how small the ork trukk really is.

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klingsor — GMT

I once saw on a GW web page the claim that their vehicles are 1:50th scale. This should of course be taken with a huge pinch of salt.
Use whatever seems to fit and whatever you are happy with.

1:35
A very common scale for vehicle modelling and the scale used for Inquisitor which is handy for Inquisitor players (why does your retinue look like the Red Army?). Oddly the GW jerry cans and oil drums seem to be this scale. In theory far too big but in practice very often useable, it is a science fantasy game after all. If you were gaming WW II it would be ridiculous to use the vehicles alongside 28mm fgures.

1:43
British O gauge scale. Some car kits in this scale such as a very useful Airfix/Heller Landrover ? terrible wheels though. Generally though a little too big.

1:48
American O gauge scale. A common scale for aircraft models and some armour kits such as the new range by Tamiya with others jumping on the band wagon. Excellent kits but not cheap ? in the same price range as GW but slower to build and more fragile. There are cheap Chinese (Zhengdefu and Kitech but they seem to be the same) made motorised kits of AFVs and APCs that are nominally to this scale but as they are scaled to fit two common chassis, one tracked and one wheeled, scale is all over the place. They are very, very useful kits though. There are other motorised kits from Academy as well. Bandai used to have a good range of very detailed WW II kits but they have been unavailable for some time though some at least might be back this year. Oddly Heller to some truck kits in this scale but they are very, very hard to find. The cheap, fit the box scale, Corgi Kubelwagen is near enough spot on 1:48th scale which is very nice. It still looks tiny but they were not big.

1:50
The scale I would normally work to when scaling things. It is also a common scale for collectable diecast vehicles such as the very affordable trucks and diggers by Joal and the even better but much more expensive German ones or the in-between ones by Corgi and Norscot. Corgi do a very useful and slightly flexibly scaled range which is nominally to this scale.

1:60
Not so sure about this scale. From what I have seen though it is too small but you get lucky and something that looks fine.

1:72
Just too small. You find some useable pieces though but far, far too small even if 25mm is nominally 1:72nd scale. However some building kits such as the castles by Zvesda (and others) are quite useful despite being labelled as 1:72nd scale.

As to Ork vehicles in particular. You are in luck, Tamiya re about to release a 1:48th scale model of the Krupp Protze lorry which is a lovely, odd looking wartime vehicle. Perfect for bashing into an ork vehicle. In the same scale the Heller 1:48th scale lorries are of big American articulated lorries so might be a bit too big.

1/35th scale lorries might be a little big, the Tamiya Protze (again) is about as small as they come. Jeeps are another matter, I have a soft spot for the M151 Mutt from Academy or Tamiya. The various models come with such useful add-ons as a recoilless rifle (Academy), a trailer or a TOW launcher (both Tamiya).