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				<title>Stormsurge- Feel No Pain or not?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> As a Tau player, the Stormsurge is basically a must-have- without those S10 pie plates and cluster rockets, I get horribly run over by just about any competitive list. The question is: just how far do you go to upgrade it? The 'surge comes at a hefty 360 pts cost base, with an additional 15 for the big gun.<br /> <br /> As it has a meager 3+ save, getting a shield generator is basically a must- which is another 50 pts, putting out Pulse Driver Cannon Stormsurge at 425 pts total. Adding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> to this would cost another 35 pts, which feels... a bit much; 460 pts is a hell of a points sink and it detracts from everything else you get. At T6 and 8 wounds, you get a lot of durability already.<br /> <br /> I've had some pretty good success with my own stormsurge so far, with a decent survival rate, and more importantly it gives my opponent a big, juicy target to home in on, leaving other valuable, powerful units- like my broadsides or pathfinders- unmolested. <br /> <br /> So I'm asking: would it actually be worth it to buy a 460 pts stormsurge, with that 3+/4+/5+ save? Any tau players out there (or just experienced against tau) who would care to comment?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Apr 2017 09:33:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SevenSeasOfRhye]]></author>
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				<title>Stormsurge- Feel No Pain or not?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As a gargantuan monstrous creature, doesn't it already get it?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:42:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gtjormungand]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gtjormungand is correct as a gargantuan the surge has feel no pain for free. <br /> <br /> I want to say the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>st</span> in is not available for the surge because of this, but I don't have my codex in front of me at the moment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Apr 2017 11:07:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ skullzz]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> has <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> for free, as already mentioned.  Definitely buy the +4 invun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:50:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Retrogamer0001]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>'s vulnerable to Psychic Shriek?  Any way to mitigate that?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:53:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PipeAlley]]></author>
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				<title>Stormsurge- Feel No Pain or not?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d5851deb5998a135333a8350c157a917.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/723491/9309279.page"><b>PipeAlley wrote:</b></a><br/>Are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>'s vulnerable to Psychic Shriek?  Any way to mitigate that?</div></blockquote>Sisters of Silence.<br /> <br /> SJ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:53:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jeffersonian000]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I mean you've got two saves vs each shriek wound, so it's not really that vulnerable. Kill the psyker seems to be what my tau opponents do. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Apr 2017 17:55:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Martel732]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Stormsurge should take the Shield, should take Velocity Tracker and should take Early Warning Override.  It already has Feel no Pain as ALL Gargantuans do, so this makes it tough enough.<br /> <br /> I also like the Airburst Fragmentation Launcher (personally).  I don't spring for the big gun.  I like the D-Shotgun.  The rest of my force does enough damage that I honestly don't think the loss of D is worth it.  D is so important against some of the worst threats in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span>.  <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:17:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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