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				<description><![CDATA[ I wished to share imprssions on the new box. Because overhaul I am very satisfied and a bit disapointed at the same time.<br /> Rules seems great and the hard cover bible is great newsm but I want to focus on the models:<br /> <br /> Primaris Space Marines:<br /> + they are very dynamic<br /> + weapons are awesome<br /> + naked heads are fantastic<br /> - helmets are not my taste and not diverse enough<br /> - maybe not very diverse in general... Maybe it fit with the idea of more standardized production of space marines ??? But it put a bit away from the idea of knight in space<br /> - captain in gravis armour is kind of a fail (very shaby pose)<br /> - 'assault' space marines are the biggest disappointment, make me think about centurion, that flying suit to the legs make them look very static. I think I hate anything about them<br /> <br /> Death guard:<br /> + very cool overall<br /> + nice pose and diversity of the plague marines<br /> + pox walker<br /> + lord of contagion and noxious blightbringer are top<br /> - a bit too cartonish (maybe)... Surely hard to apply the fine details of guts and gore to a plastic model<br /> - bloat drone... But I understand one can love it... But to me it just looks... bloat<br /> - malignant plaguecaster. I think with a bit of conversion it can turn in a great mini but as is it look more funny and goofy than anything else<br /> <br /> Do one know if they are multipart kit or easy-fit?<br /> <br /> I am very interested in other opinions]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models look awesome. A lifetime to paint well but kool models for sure <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>. Numarines are growing on me. I like the idea more and more but a tall marine is a marine and I have enough of those.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually hate every Nurgle model besides the Plague Marine with the stick grenade. They look way too cartoonish.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6646f1490ad2a357f69baa5dbde46673.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383824.page"><b>Tactical_Spam wrote:</b></a><br/>I actually hate every Nurgle model besides the Plague Marine with the stick grenade. They look way too cartoonish.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Hmmm... I think that I like that about them. Makes the rottenness easier to stomach maybe...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ To both Jeff white and Tactical Spam: I think I could buy the box for the Death Guard and the book, while the primaris do not motivate my to step in for 95 pounds. To illustrate this I was seriously thinking about buying the box and selling the space marines. This is a thing I should never have think about before.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/beb8f8ba5aacc16c948e4d40bcc89738.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383833.page"><b>reluxor wrote:</b></a><br/>To both Jeff white and Tactical Spam: I think I could buy the box for the Death Guard and the book, while the primaris do not motivate my to step in for 95 pounds. To illustrate this I was seriously thinking about buying the box and selling the space marines. This is a thing I should never have think about before.</div></blockquote> <br /> I am with you on this one. And if someone wanted to split a box with me like that then I would be all for it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>-<br /> <br /> + Like the looks of the new armor.<br /> + The weapons look awesome<br /> - Bigger size is stupid. The size variance between new models an old are going to look odd.<br /> - Jetpack dudes look constipated. Seriously....imagine a toilet behind them.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span>-<br /> <br /> + They are all unique. <br /> + Poxwalkers will be cool to mix with the cultists/zombies just for variety. <br /> + The big axe character looks awesome!<br /> + Blight Drone. Looks cool, and its NEW. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> get something new. Thats a huge plus.<br /> - Way too cartoony.<br /> - Having more than one squad of the Plague Marines and STILL look different will be hard. <br /> - The old Plague Marines, and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> conversion kits look better than the new models (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>). <br /> - Too over the top, not enough "grit" look.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a26d6000c27ddaf76f13dd6113648b7e.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383830.page"><b>jeff white wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6646f1490ad2a357f69baa5dbde46673.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383824.page"><b>Tactical_Spam wrote:</b></a><br/>I actually hate every Nurgle model besides the Plague Marine with the stick grenade. They look way too cartoonish.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Hmmm... I think that I like that about them. Makes the rottenness easier to stomach maybe...</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> So getting hit with an ugly stick suddenly makes Plague Marines less ugly?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like all of them!  I hope to get two starter sets for myself once I can afford it.  I think 8th edition will be an age of Plague and Primaris Marines for me.<br /> <br /> I have been wanting to try a different color scheme for my Marines, and the Primaris Marines are a perfect opportunity to put together a growing army over time.  Death Guard have also been on my list of projects since late 5th edition, and now is my chance!<br /> <br /> I can see why some folks are complaining about the aesthetics of the models, but I think they look good enough.  Besides, seeing them in person and in some color scheme other than Ultramarines or the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> studio's Plague Marines look may help give a better feel for the models.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383855.page"><b>Vaxx wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> - The old Plague Marines, and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> conversion kits look better than the new models (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>). <br /> - Too over the top, not enough "grit" look.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I thought I was the only one.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm pretty sure they look cartoonish and not enough "grit" because of the clean paintjob. Just compare the official paintjob of the Plague marines in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store with this new one.<br /> The classic Plague Marines look like they have put a Sepia filter with Photoshop on top of the paint job, they look super "grit"<br /> <br /> Personally I love the models. And thats something to say because Nurgle has always been my least favourite lookin Chaos army. And is something that I hate, because normally I love the desings of their helmets (Like the Fly-like eyes in both fantasy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>) armours and weapons, but the fat and bloated thing hasn't never been something that I liked.<br /> But this new bach of Nurgle marines? They have convinced me to do a Nurgle force. Like the Chaos Lord. I lLOVE  the model. Besides how his belly is open and his gut falling to the ground. But the rest is so awesome that I can totally ignore that.<br /> So I can totally understand why they don't look as good to people that prefer more the old look.<br /> <br /> Personally I don't like many of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> desings besides the Krieg range one. They look to much "reasonable" and more generic sci-fi to me. They don't look as gothic, exagerated and barroqe as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> aesthetic is. <br /> One example is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> exorcist vs the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> exorcist. To some the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> one is "absurd and goofy looking". To me is more Warhammer. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/046732881a36f61124bb0fc0386716e2.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383951.page"><b>Galas wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm pretty sure they look cartoonish and not enough "grit" because of the clean paintjob. Just compare the official paintjob of the Plague marines in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> store with this new one.<br /> The classic Plague Marines look like they have put a Sepia filter with Photoshop on top of the paint job, they look super "grit"<br /> <br /> Personally I love the models. And thats something to say because Nurgle has always been my least favourite lookin Chaos army. And is something that I hate, because normally I love the desings of their helmets (Like the Fly-like eyes in both fantasy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>) armours and weapons, but the fat and bloated thing hasn't never been something that I liked.<br /> But this new bach of Nurgle marines? They have convinced me to do a Nurgle force. Like the Chaos Lord. I lLOVE  the model. Besides how his belly is open and his gut falling to the ground. But the rest is so awesome that I can totally ignore that.<br /> So I can totally understand why they don't look as good to people that prefer more the old look.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The models are far from being bad: is just that the proportions are more cartoonish and and all the added elements are just too much. Is perfect to have few more tentacles and bells but the models are over-designed <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>. Not bad, but inferior to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> ones.<br /> One almost can find an analogy with modern directors and CGI abuse (which is partially a meme, in the sense that CGI use in movies is often more subtle than what we think, but we notice very well when is misused). ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yea, I juste edited my post to adress that. To me Warhammer is about exagerating everything, but at the same time I can totally see why some people just prefer a more reasonable and not as much "overloaded" models. <br /> I have seen people call the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models "busy", and I agree. Is jut that I like them being "Busy" <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's good we all have opinions.  I hope most don't just adopt other people's opinions instead of judging it all for themselves.<br /> <br /> My opinions on the models follows:<br /> <br /> NuMarines -<br /> *  The height difference is what caught my attention as the old Marines are so lame that I stopped playing them in 4th/5th.<br /> *  The details and armor design are forcing me to look at buying my first box set from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> *  I love the Jump jet troops.<br /> *  They are not so busy.......(was worried after seeing Roboutte).<br /> <br /> Death Guard -<br /> *  Sooooo busy looking!  Horrible to the eye!<br /> *  Not impressed with anything as the design just overloads the eye.<br /> *  The pox troops look like they are Ork goofy and therefore not original.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/beb8f8ba5aacc16c948e4d40bcc89738.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383809.page"><b>reluxor wrote:</b></a><br/>I wished to share imprssions on the new box. Because overhaul I am very satisfied and a bit disapointed at the same time.<br /> Rules seems great and the hard cover bible is great newsm but I want to focus on the models:<br /> <br /> Primaris Space Marines:<br /> + they are very dynamic<br /> + weapons are awesome<br /> + naked heads are fantastic<br /> - helmets are not my taste and not diverse enough<br /> - maybe not very diverse in general... Maybe it fit with the idea of more standardized production of space marines ??? But it put a bit away from the idea of knight in space<br /> - captain in gravis armour is kind of a fail (very shaby pose)<br /> - 'assault' space marines are the biggest disappointment, make me think about centurion, that flying suit to the legs make them look very static. I think I hate anything about them<br /> <br /> Death guard:<br /> + very cool overall<br /> + nice pose and diversity of the plague marines<br /> + pox walker<br /> + lord of contagion and noxious blightbringer are top<br /> - a bit too cartonish (maybe)... Surely hard to apply the fine details of guts and gore to a plastic model<br /> - bloat drone... But I understand one can love it... But to me it just looks... bloat<br /> - malignant plaguecaster. I think with a bit of conversion it can turn in a great mini but as is it look more funny and goofy than anything else<br /> <br /> Do one know if they are multipart kit or easy-fit?<br /> <br /> I am very interested in other opinions</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The models are snap fits, so we're looking at fairly monopose for all of them. <br /> <br /> I agree that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models look cartooney but I think it's owing to the paint job. A more bare bones dirty paint scheme would make them look way more serious. <br /> <br /> I like the jump guys personally. They're <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(276);'>OTT</span> but w/e<br /> <br /> Agreed on the captain model, he is screaming for some cutting and reposing (maybe different loadout, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>?)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like the set if I were only ever to get one. However the set is kinda schizophrenic about that. The Primaris Marines are clearly meant to be generic and to be bought in multiples, since I'm willing to bet that in the coming days this will be the cheapest source of Intercessor Squads and Plasma Hellblasters. On the flip side, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models are all unique. Unlike the Primaris Marines, each one is so full of character that it would be weird to see two unconverted models side by side, which means the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models are not suited to multiples. I can see a lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models going on the secondary market, while the Primaris Marines from this set command a slightly higher premium. <br /> <br /> As for the designs, complexity doesn't necessarily equal good. It's like hitting every key on a piano; everything at once just produces noise, not music. I think they were trying to re-create the Putrid Blightkings merged with the MK3 Iron Armor and kinda went overboard. However a good paint scheme can help it become less noisy. The Nurgle models are far too bright and pristine right now; they should be dark, dank and oily, with a muted contrast. The website picture is probably done so to show off the details, but a proper nurgle model should be roughly one tone with only a few hints of contrast. <br /> <br /> One thing I wonder about the set is how modular is it. Are the heads easily swapped for something else or are we going to get another set of snap-fit monoposed models? It's most likely the latter, but given that they haven't done snap-fits in a long time, there could be a chance that these guys can have some variations. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> - I like how they are not over blinged. i like the new size and hope they update all the kits to be just about that size. maybe a shade less for normal marines. oh but i dont like the bare heads. and while i dont like the assault marines. they are kinda growing on me. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> - i like all the models. except i hate nurgle of all the chaos gods. so feth them ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6589eaac7f9e3e0c07e0f50256e97fd9.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384024.page"><b>MechaEmperor7000 wrote:</b></a><br/>As for the designs, complexity doesn't necessarily equal good. It's like hitting every key on a piano; everything at once just produces noise, not music. I think they were trying to re-create the Putrid Blightkings merged with the MK3 Iron Armor and kinda went overboard. However a good paint scheme can help it become less noisy. The Nurgle models are far too bright and pristine right now; they should be dark, dank and oily, with a muted contrast. The website picture is probably done so to show off the details, but a proper nurgle model should be roughly one tone with only a few hints of contrast.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This^<br /> <br /> New Plague Marines<br /> <div style="margin-top:5px; margin-bottom:10px;">
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/89ba10f0d256d09fa333e8dd2d4885e5.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384026.page"><b>Desubot wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> - I like how they are not over blinged. i like the new size and hope they update all the kits to be just about that size. maybe a shade less for normal marines. oh but i dont like the bare heads. and while i dont like the assault marines. they are kinda growing on me. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> - i like all the models. except i hate nurgle of all the chaos gods. so feth them </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Really considering cutting out the guys and such and replacing with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GS</span> cables for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(76);'>IW</span> army. We'll see what their legion rules are like. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ as i am now going to have 2 boxes swapping nugle for 4 sets of numarines my only complaint is the unhelmeted hears, I will be looking for alternative heads if they do not come with a helmet option ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If I want to do a true scale project then Primaris marines will be handy.<br /> <br /> Really like the Nurgle offering other than the Poxwalkers - they will be sold or thrown in the bin, just like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(437);'>DV</span> cultists.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why his people assuming the kits in the starter aren't gonna be monopose with 0 customization? They have already confirmed that if I remember correctly, and is something they always do with their starters.<br /> Is obvious by the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> trailer that multipart plastic kits for deathguard marines and terminators is coming in the future. Maybe Poxwalkers too.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/046732881a36f61124bb0fc0386716e2.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384147.page"><b>Galas wrote:</b></a><br/>Why his people assuming the kits in the starter aren't gonna be monopose with 0 customization? They have already confirmed that if I remember correctly, and is something they always do with their starters.<br /> Is obvious by the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> trailer that multipart plastic kits for deathguard marines and terminators is coming in the future. Maybe Poxwalkers too.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> for starter sets sure, btu burning of prospero and betrayal at cailth were normal kits as was talons of the emperor, so there is some evidence we might get real kits in them, were i a betting man i dwouldn't put money on it, but there is a chance ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Honestly I think most of what I hate is 'eavy metal's paint jobs. Granted they're extremely talented and leagues better than what I can do, but its so flat and boring because they're trying to show off a product. Look at the goddam flat, boring faces. Remember when Robot Girlman came out and people hated his face, and then other people actually painted his face and it was actually pretty decent? Same thing. <br /> <br /> The bright flat colors on everything really make them look cartoony. I'm sure they'll be fine with better paint jobs. Heck, I don't even paint my nurgle with green. They're all kislev flesh and baneblade brown with heavy washes. <br /> <br /> I actually want like, 3-5 of those bloat drones. I was never a fan of chaos vehicles since the forge/mauler-fiends were the only good ones and while cool they aren't my style. Hopefully they have multiple weapon options. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The biggest disappointment for me in the set was the bloat drone. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> the forgeworld drone looks ten times better. The plastic one is too busy, and the propellers are small whereas the resin one it had a more intimidating profile and looks less cartoony. I understand the propellers make the form of the mark of nurgle...but it just looks overdone to me. Not enough maggots, rot and actual disease going on. <br /> <br /> But I do think a different paintjob will help all of these models...i'm probably going to pick up the box at some point this summer.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really like the Inceptors (Orbital Drop Hover Marines). <br /> <br /> Is it just me or does the poxwalker with the lab coat look ridiculous?<br /> The Plaguecaster I'm 50-50 on.<br />  I'm not big on Nurgle as a whole, but the rest actually look cool.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The numarines look very generic in numbers. I think they have gone for the plain look in order to make them.more attractive to loyalist players who might want to add them to an existing army <br /> <br /> They can put them into the correct livery for their chapter - they would be new 'recruits' so would not inherit older more characterful suits, nor have had the time to personalise their fresh off the showroom floor gear. <br /> <br /> Plague marines...Nurgle was the only Chaos faction I never liked or played.  I think these models are bloody fantastic.  <br /> <br /> Lots of character and loads of detail.  Nurgle''s followers see him as a cheery Uncle figure...I think that's why they have gone for the jolly look which some are seeing as cartoony.  It also touches on the delirium of the plague and the madness brought to those 'saved' by Papa N.<br /> <br /> I do think that the paint scheme is too bright and neat.<br /> <br /> Two sets of the Primaris Marines will blend in pretty easily. Characters would be trickier (the standard bearer for both forces will be conversion fodder for something else I think)<br /> <br /> For the plague marines some different colours of the grisly bits and piping will serve to differentiate two sets enough for me.  Other people's tastes will vary.  The characters might require a bit more conversion work.  But it is chaos so one could paint their armour in a different colour scheme just keeping the same pallette.<br /> <br /> But...this is a monopose starter set.  You aren't really meant to but more than a couple.<br /> <br /> I like the BD.<br /> <br /> Also...I *adore* the Poxwalker Leader's immaculate white coat! :-D<br /> <br /> I plan on buying the two player set and either trading off the Primaris for the Nurgle half or selling P and buying N from eBay.<br /> <br /> I was looking to get a heavy infantry army to counterpoint my two fragile Xenos armies but if you had told me I would have been going with Uncle Nurgle I would have politely corrected you.<br /> <br /> The Nurgle guys are a big win for me. Primaris I think will look better once <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> start selling the enivtable Primaris [Chapter] boxes]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/046732881a36f61124bb0fc0386716e2.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384147.page"><b>Galas wrote:</b></a><br/>Why his people assuming the kits in the starter aren't gonna be monopose with 0 customization? They have already confirmed that if I remember correctly, and is something they always do with their starters.<br /> Is obvious by the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> trailer that multipart plastic kits for deathguard marines and terminators is coming in the future. Maybe Poxwalkers too.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They're snap fit, so they WILL be very monopose, maybe a bit of options like head swivel, arm height.<br /> <br /> That being said, I've never met a mini I couldn't make fully poseable with some snips a knife and some greenstuff. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like them. Never really been that interested in owning marines but I think I will be picking up some Numarines for sure (IronMan paint scheme is really tempting) I like the Death Guard although I do take on board what has been said about them looking "cartoonish", however, I tend to think that is down to the overly bright Eavy metal painting style which 'm not the biggest fan of generally. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b4373919a567269fd71c74f80cac7a95.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9383989.page"><b>Da-Rock wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> <br /> Death Guard -<br /> *  Sooooo busy looking!  Horrible to the eye!<br /> *  Not impressed with anything as the design just overloads the eye.<br /> .</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Pretty much this. Dont get me wrong I wanted to like them, there's just way too much going on. Plus one of these days I'd like to see a more emaciated side of Nurgle.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/81b34f92f28ab9ba686bf04aadac3051.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384006.page"><b>More Dakka wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> The models are snap fits, so we're looking at fairly monopose for all of them. <br /> <br /> I agree that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models look cartooney but I think it's owing to the paint job. A more bare bones dirty paint scheme would make them look way more serious. <br /> <br /> I like the jump guys personally. They're <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(276);'>OTT</span> but w/e<br /> <br /> Agreed on the captain model, he is screaming for some cutting and reposing (maybe different loadout, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>?)<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks for the info about snap fit. It is very good to know.<br /> <br /> Honestly I can understand any positive/negative comment, EXCEPT about those flying marines. To me they are really a failure. I respect your opinion but I do not understand what can be positive about them. I believe I will find a nice place for them on ebay <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Thanks for all the comments<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6589eaac7f9e3e0c07e0f50256e97fd9.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384024.page"><b>MechaEmperor7000 wrote:</b></a><br/>I like the set if I were only ever to get one. However the set is kinda schizophrenic about that. The Primaris Marines are clearly meant to be generic and to be bought in multiples, since I'm willing to bet that in the coming days this will be the cheapest source of Intercessor Squads and Plasma Hellblasters. On the flip side, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models are all unique. Unlike the Primaris Marines, each one is so full of character that it would be weird to see two unconverted models side by side, which means the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models are not suited to multiples. I can see a lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models going on the secondary market, while the Primaris Marines from this set command a slightly higher premium. <br /> <br /> As for the designs, complexity doesn't necessarily equal good. It's like hitting every key on a piano; everything at once just produces noise, not music. I think they were trying to re-create the Putrid Blightkings merged with the MK3 Iron Armor and kinda went overboard. However a good paint scheme can help it become less noisy. The Nurgle models are far too bright and pristine right now; they should be dark, dank and oily, with a muted contrast. The website picture is probably done so to show off the details, but a proper nurgle model should be roughly one tone with only a few hints of contrast. <br /> <br /> One thing I wonder about the set is how modular is it. Are the heads easily swapped for something else or are we going to get another set of snap-fit monoposed models? It's most likely the latter, but given that they haven't done snap-fits in a long time, there could be a chance that these guys can have some variations. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah the nurgle <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> painted in the codex of third edition (The Cleaved) have always catched my eye...<br /> <br /> And about paint scheme of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>, I think a good illustration is the Sigmarites : on the site they look very childish, but looking on the internet darker tones suit them much better. Anyway I cannot blame <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> to choose colour scheme suited for their youngest audience, when I started with the second edition I was amazed by the Eldars and all those primary colors...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/dd7a3eb02ebf0d5e13fb66da6d045033.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/726595/9384121.page"><b>NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:</b></a><br/>If I want to do a true scale project then Primaris marines will be handy.<br /> <br /> Really like the Nurgle offering other than the Poxwalkers - they will be sold or thrown in the bin, just like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(437);'>DV</span> cultists.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> wow wow wow... Wait a minute... Dark Vengeance cultist were AWESOME <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> All in all that box was a very nice set]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have bad eye sight and have never been any good at painting, since I started way back in 2e. The plague marines are rather intimidating to me. My chosen from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(437);'>DV</span> set are still unpainted because I can't paint tiny details.<br /> <br /> I'm also worried that the chaos half will be way weaker than primaris half game wise. I already have 20 years of space marines. Chaos would be fun.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Love the plague marines! Might have to snag the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> as a painting project]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Primaris Marines look great.  I sold a Battle Company worth of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> so I could set that cash aside for them.  I especially like the Gravis Armored Captain, and the Bolt Rifle looks sweet too.  I just can't decide if they're going to become Dark Angels, or if I should do a Codex chapter. Torn between Smurfs and Fists, leaning towards Fists, but unsure if I want to paint all that yellow.  I have Gulliman as well, which is another point in the UMs favor.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> are also a possibility, depending on how they're handled in the Index.  Decisions, decisions.<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> are nice, but I've no real interest in starting another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> faction.  I've already got a (30k) Word Bearers force, a Khorne/Unaligned Black Legion force, and a Grand Coven of 1k Sons.  I may just keep the characters to paint up and let live in my case, and sell the Plague Marines and Cultists on.  They're awesome minis, just not for me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 00:26:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New Warhammer 40K starter set: impressions about models?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ At first I was against the thought of keeping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> half and just offloading it ASAP...<br /> <br /> But then I remember the one time a few years ago, I considered a Nurgle Chaos marine army... I don't know what drew me to the plague marines, I guess because the few people I know who play were Imperial players and I was tempted to change over to Nurgle instead of my usual Loyal Power armoured friends... And for some reason, the more I think about it... I think I'm going to have to start a Full Prime Marine Army and Death Guard.<br /> <br /> All my Dollarydoos... Gone in an Instant. <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 02:04:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spetsnaz0129]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I do like the regular bolt rifle and plasma marines.  They honestly look a bit better than regular marines <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.<br /> <br /> However, and I'm aware that this thread's going to sound like a broken record, but the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models all look WAY too busy.  Even a lot of other Nurgle models have had this issue for some time.  A few of the poxwalkers are straightforward enough that it doesn't hurt one's eyes to look at them.  And of course the Jetpack flying Numarines look really dumb compared to oldschool jump pack assault marines.  The akimbo bolters was a neat idea, but the region around their neck is so clunky and bulky it's just ridiculous.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 02:54:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New Warhammer 40K starter set: impressions about models?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The numarines I gotta be honest I am totally NOT liking, especially those wonky pistol shield guys they just look so downs sigmarine to me. I suppose there is a few tact guys who look OK but I just really can't stand the concept, I did not really like the russian doll marines either but at least they were normal space marines inside bigger than T armor suits. These guys though I just want to stomp on the designers testis.<br /> <br /> Now the nurgle stuff..I'm all for it, it looks great will enjoy painting them anyway and using them for 7th <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> . I've actually got 40 on the sprue <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(718);'>pb</span>, 9 nurgling bases and 6 pd, so who knows I might use them for some laughs in 8th if I give it a shot and do <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(566);'>ROC</span> theme list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 09:39:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I tend to like the NuMarines, to the point of even starting to see a bit of appeal in the Inceptors. Basically, they remind me of a drawing in the old Rogue Trader book, which has a couple of assault marines with twin pistols in it. If they made the new Inceptors with twin pistols instead of those shielded assault bolters I might have liked them sooner rather than later.<br /> <br /> Besides that, my only other concern is this; I believe I read somewhere, that the NuMarines would have different proportions than old marines, but the heads and shoulder pads would still be interchangeable. Will this be the case with the NuMarines from the starter set as well (Monopose, except for separate shoulder pads and heads) ? <br /> That might make them even more appealing, as one could get an upgrade pack (Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Ultramarines) for added customization.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 11:36:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Models look fine, its going to come down to price point for me at this point. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 12:37:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New Warhammer 40K starter set: impressions about models?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <b>Primaris Marines</b><br /> +Inoffensive, simple design.<br /> +Lot of characters.<br /> +Neat idea behind the jump guys if not perfectly carried out<br /> <br /> -The twin-fisting bolters w/ shields look awful.<br /> -They look too much like normal marines and thus look really awkward/stupid alongside normal marines (but I get it, they'll be replacing them over the next 5-10 years or whatever)<br /> -Don't really like when you can see definite sculptor tendencies between models ranges, and these guys smack of the sky dwarves sculptor<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Nurgle Death Guard</b><br /> +A lot of models for your use.<br /> +A vehicle, a leader, a psyker, normal troops, and meat shields...this seems the "better" force<br /> +The one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> fella with the grenade looks cool<br /> <br /> -Caricature, borderline farcical styling<br /> -Terribly ugly poxwalkers (and seriously stop with all the gak eating grins on them)<br /> -Poxwalkers are very cartoonishly styled vs. realistically sickening...which is a shame<br /> -Poxwalkers suffer from that bizarre <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AOS</span> "all curves are squared off awkwardly" design approach (i.e. computer modelers who can't handle organic designs?)<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models are inconsistent in scale from what we've seen<br /> -The sorcerer (at least as painted) is fething hideous.<br /> -General dislike for modeled flame/smoke/etc...and there is some of that going on.  NOT a fan.<br /> -Typical "take it to 11" overstyling approach (these things would get you kicked out of most art schools)<br /> -With creepy/nasty/spooky things, "less is more" is often hugely important - this obviously doesn't get there.<br /> -The plague drone or whatever is trying a bit too hard.  This could probably be scaled back with some modeling.<br /> -Overall, really disappointed with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(528);'>DG</span> models.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 12:53:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Elbows]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd like to first see the sprues before I make a final verdict. <br /> However, so far I like half of what I see. Regular nu-marines, plague marines, chaos lord in termie armour, and blight drone look sweet. The nu-marine captain, assault nu-marine, and weird <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(702);'>af</span> plague bearer thingy is super weird. Half hit, half miss for me.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 12:58:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Novelist47]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Death Guard<br />  <br /> - Busy models<br /> - Not a fan of poxwalkers, look too flat or something. Definitely cartoony. Would prefer more traditional zombie-looking models.<br /> - Sizing is good and like the bloatedness<br /> - Typhus Corrosion, Ryza Rust and other weathering will go a looonnggg way on these guys<br /> <br /> <br /> Primaris Space Marines<br /> <br /> - My opinions are my own<br /> - Hate the models entirely]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 13:08:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Deadshot]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Love the Deathguard models. The paintjob on them in the picture is way too bright, but with proper grimdark colours they are going to be some of the most awesome minis ever.<br /> <br /> Primaris Marines I am not sure about. I love truescale marines, but I really dislike the new armour mark. Not to mention their lazy fluff or how they are going to look really out of place next to existing Space Marine miniatures.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 15:12:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Iron_Captain]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New Warhammer 40K starter set: impressions about models?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd like to paint up a Chaos skirmish force, and I am really on the fence between the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(437);'>DV</span> Chosen, or the Plague Marines, but the Lord and Aspiring Champion are still tilting thi gs in the Chosen's favor.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 21:48:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AegisGrimm]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not interested in enough of the models to be bothering with the starter, I like the way the normal marines are plain without chapter markings all over, had both sides been like that with some generic cultists I may have considered it - but none of these fit with what I'm doing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 26 May 2017 21:59:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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