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				<title>[2000] - Black Templar - Marshall Lvinge's Crusade - 8th Edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all,<br /> <br /> As I'm sure with most of you I have been waiting with en-trepidation for 8th Edition to hit stores so I can get my 8th edition on.<br /> <br /> Due the majority of leaks and previewing the index/rulebook in store I've been able to get a list together. Understandably until we play who knows how its going to pan out however; <br /> I'm looking for some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>, to see if there is anything I'm missing.<br /> <br /> Battalion Detachment: 2-3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, 3-6 Troops, 0-6 Elites, 0-3 Fast Attack, 0-3 Heavy Support, 0-2 Flyers				<br /> Spearhead Detachment: 1-2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, 3-6 Heavy Support<br /> 				<br /> <b>Land Raider Reedemer </b>	<br /> <b>High Marshall Helbrecht</b>	<br /> <b>The Emperor's Champion</b>	<br /> <b>Apothecary	</b><br /> <b>Crusader Squad I</b>	x9	<br /> Sword Brother w/ Power Fist				<br /> Initiate w/ Power Axe<br /> 				<br /> <b>Land Raider Crusader	</b><br /> <b>Rechlusiarch Grimaldus</b>	<br /> <b>Cenobyte Servitors</b>	x1	<br /> <b>Crusader Squad II</b>	x10	<br /> Sword Brother w/ Power Fist				<br /> Initiate w/ Power Axe			<br /> <b>Neophyte w/ shotguns</b>	x3<br /> 		<br /> <b>Intercessor Squad I</b>	x5<br /> <br /> <b>Terminator Assault Squad</b>	x5<br /> x2 Thunder Hammer / Storm Shield			<br /> 	<br /> <b>Centurion Devastator Squad</b>	x3<br /> x3 Twin Las			<br /> x3 Cent Missile Launch<br /> <br /> <b>42 Models 	102 Wounds 	1999 Points	7 Command Points</b><br /> <br /> My main aim is to stay fairly fluffy with the crusade squads, supported by some nice <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices. The Reedemer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> goes off in search of elite and character hunting. With the Apoth looking to keep the Marshall and the Emperuh's champion alive. <br /> <br /> The Marshall provides re-rolls to hit as well as Grimaldus. That's why I've split them up. Hes then in the Crusader for anti-infantry purposes.<br /> <br /> The intercessor squad is for some fire support with -1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, but mainly back field objective holders. That and I needed a third troop choice to make up my battalion detachment. <br /> <br /> Centurion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span>'s do what they say on the tin. Long range fire support and anti-vehicle. <br /> <br /> Terminator assault squad is there to deploy in as and where I need them.<br /> <br /> Many thanks,]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jun 2017 11:12:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Luvvo]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Black Templar - Marshall Lvinge's Crusade - 8th Edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd rather take a Las Predator for 202pts than the Centurions, with the points saved you can get a 5 man squad with Lascannon and give the Sword Brothers a LasPistol at 7pts each <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> The Thunderhammer it's better this time around at 3 Damage instead of d3 Damage from the Fist.<br /> Power Sword it's better than Axe if you have Helbrecht's buff.<br /> Also you need to take all 3 Cenobytes at 2pts each.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 13 Jun 2017 04:03:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gendo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[2000] - Black Templar - Marshall Lvinge's Crusade - 8th Edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi Gendo,<br /> <br /> Thanks for the response. I have played two games at 2K now and have made some initial tweaks: I also noted that I was not paying for my Land Raider Sponsors or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span>. That was a bad mistake so had to adjust for 137 points.<br /> <br /> Battalion & Spearhead Detachment's<br /> 				<br /> <b>Land Raider Reedemer</b><br /> Twin Assault Cannon<br /> Flamestorm Cannon x2<br /> <br /> <b>High Marshall Helbrecht</b><br /> <br /> <b>The Emperor's Champion</b><br /> <br /> <b>Crusader Squad I</b><br /> Sword Brother w/ Power Fist	<br /> Initiate w/ Power Axe<br /> 	<br /> <b>Land Raider Crusader</b><br /> Twin Assault Cannon<br /> Hurrican Bolter x2<br /> <br /> <b>Rechlusiarch Grimaldus</b><br /> <br /> <b>Cenobyte Servitors</b>	x3<br /> <br /> <b>Crusader Squad II</b>	x10<br /> Sword Brother w/ Power Fist	<br /> Initiate w/ Power Axe	<br /> Initiate w/ Flamer	<br /> 	<br /> <b>Scouts</b>	x5		<br /> x5 Sniper Rifles		<br /> x5 Camo-Cloak<br /> 	<br /> <b>Cataphractii Terminators</b>	x5<br /> <br /> <b>Centurion Devastator Squad</b>	x3<br /> x3 Twin Las<br /> x3 Cent Missile Launch<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>40 Models	87 Wounds	1999 Points	7 Command Points</b><br /> <br /> OR instead of the Cent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Squad<br /> <br /> <b>Apothecary</b><br /> <br /> x2 <b>Sword Brother</b> w/ Power Fist & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span> Pistol<br /> <br /> <b>Predator</b>	<br /> Twin Las			<br /> x2 Lascannon<br /> 	<br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Squad</b><br /> x4 Lascannon 			<br /> <br /> The intercessors didn't really do it for me. Thier objectives holders, but don't offer up much opportunity. Where as a cheaper scout squad with a 2+ save in cover can snipe characters and offer nice offence.<br /> <br /> Also assault terminators, whilst grand for T4 infantry with average saves, they lacked the staying power vs terminators. Hence the swap to Cata's and x5 power fists instead.<br /> <br /> The centurion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad is admittedly expensive. When they get tied up in combat its a huge amount of wasted points. I will see what I can do to test the alternative!<br /> <br /> Thanks,]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:41:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Luvvo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[2000] - Black Templar - Marshall Lvinge's Crusade - 8th Edition</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Played a few more games since and have some further tweaks:<br /> <br /> <b>Battalion & Spearhead Detachment</b><br /> 				<br /> <b>Land Raider Reedemer</b><br /> <i>Twin Assault Cannon	<br /> x2 Flamestorm Cannon</i><br /> 	<br /> <b>High Marshall Helbrecht</b><br /> 	<br /> <b>The Emperor's Champion</b><br /> <br /> <b>Apothecary</b><br /> <br /> <b>Crusader Squad I x9</b><br /> <i>Sword Brother w/ Power Fist & Plasma Pistol		<br /> Initiate w/ Power Sword</i><br /> 		<br /> <b>Land Raider Crusader</b><br /> <i>Twin Assault Cannon			<br /> x2 Hurricane Bolter</i><br /> 			<br /> <b>Rechlusiarch Grimaldus</b><br /> <br /> <b>Cenobyte Servitors</b><br /> 	<br /> <b>Crusader Squad II x10</b><br /> <i>Sword Brother w/ Power Fist	<br /> Initiate w/ Power Axe</i><br /> 			<br /> <b>Scouts</b><br /> <i>x5 Sniper Rifles				<br /> x5 Camo-Cloak</i><br /> 				<br /> <b>Autocannon Predator</b>	<br /> <i>Predator Autocannon	<br /> x2 Heavy Bolters</i><br /> <br /> <b>Tri-Las Predator</b><br /> <i>Twin Las			<br /> x2 Lascannon </i>			<br /> 	<br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Squad</b>	<br /> <i>x4 Lascannon </i>			<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Models	40 Wounds	104 Points 1999 Command Points	7</b>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:53:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Luvvo]]></author>
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