<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? BA, RG and DW armies. I have just recently started a RG army as I have really fallen in love with their fluff plus they go well with my DW background that I am building. I have Kayvaan Shrike and bought 2 units of Vanguard Vets to accompany him, kind of like his personal body guard and I have built them with most having dual LC's as I personally like the look and LC have always imo done well in CC. Now with so many changes with 8th I am quite concerned that I now have models that will be just, meh. Is my concern valid or am I good to go forward with my builds?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433298.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433298.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? AP -2 D1, re-rolling to wound with +1 attack. Shrike will also allow all friendly Raven Guard within 6" to re-roll all failed to-hit rolls in shooting or assault. You may have a little trouble with units that have both high toughness and 2+ saves, but otherwise they should be quite solid.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433314.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433314.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay?
And they are the most cool looking weapon of 40k ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433320.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433322.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay?
 Galas wrote:
Lighting Claws are horde killers, and with how powerfull Hordes are in 8th... they are gonna be usefull.

And they are the most cool looking weapon of 40k

This is true, Especially with Shrike's Re-Roll To Hits and Failed Charges.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433327.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433327.page GMT Re:Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? Now to go get the books so I can buy my Sternguard Vets and properly equip them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433356.page GMT Re:Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433401.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433408.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? OP as it sounds at first glance, and is absolutely fine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433411.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay?
2+ rerolled: (5/6 + 1/6*5/6) - 5/6 = 5/36
6+ rerolled: (1/6 + 5/6*1/6) - 1/6 = 5/36

Does the same thing. It's almost twice as effective on 4+, though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433424.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay?
 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
Chance to hit with reroll - Chance to hit without = Difference

2+ rerolled: (5/6 + 1/6*5/6) - 5/6 = 5/36
6+ rerolled: (1/6 + 5/6*1/6) - 1/6 = 5/36

Does the same thing. It's almost twice as effective on 4+, though.


It makes the 6+ twice as effective as it was (almost.) It only marginally raises the 2+ which is already doing really well.

On 6 attacks, a 2+ goes from hitting almost all of them to hitting all of them. A 6+ goes from hitting one to hitting twice as many as that. We can assume that it was hitting on a 6+ for a reason (maybe it was dirt cheap) and you've just doubled its potential.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433427.page GMT Lightening Claws in 8th, Yay or Nay? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/728968/9433845.page GMT