http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net ). Right now I'm trying to figure out what to equip everything with. From looking around it looks like I'm probably going to be going with 3 Embraces and 2 Caresses per 5 players, although any further opinions on this would be welcome. The main question I have is what should I equip my Troupe Masters with? Right now I have 3, 2 with Kisses and 1 with a caress, but I could quite easily swap over to embraces for all of them if that seems like a good idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9448829.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9448829.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449533.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449533.page GMT
I'm thinking probably 2 Fusion pistols per transport. Either 1 on the Players and 1 on the Troupe Master, or 2 in the squad. It seems pricey but damn are they effective and nice to spread out throughout the army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449607.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449607.page GMT
I'll still run at least one unit of caresses, and probably put caresses on the Troupe Masters, for dealing with T8+. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9449813.page GMT
8 Players with Caresses
8 Players with Embraces
4 Players with Embraces and Fusion Pistols
4 Players with Swords and Fusion Pistols
2 Troupe Masters with Caresses and Fusion Pistols

That gives me 4 squads of:
6 Players (3 Embraces + 2 Caresses + 2 Fusion Pistols)
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Mathematically the Embrace, when benefiting from the TM re-roll, is better against non T8 targets than our other options. The fusion pistols give you a way to handle the T8 and multi wound targets that the Embraces can't deal with.

Is it more expensive? Yeah, sorta. But I can field 5 full clown cars with nothing but that at 2k and still fit the Yncarne into the last 1/6 of the list. It's stupidly strong overall, as you measure distances for open topped shooting from the model on the clown cars, so you have a deceptively long threat range with which to dunk tanks. If I didn't take the fusion pistols I could basically afford one more car full of clowns, but then I would have zero anti tank.

It's also nice since I like just throwing whatever looks cool onto my harlies, and so my opponents have a much easier time accepting proxies if I tell them that literally every model has the same weapons no matter how they look.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452276.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452276.page GMT
vs. GEQ: All 3 wound on 3+, only the kiss doesn't ignore armor completely and the d3 damage is pointless. Embrace is cheapest and best tied for best.

vs. MEQ: Caress gets better to-wound roll and Embrace removes one more point of armor, so they're a wash. Kiss is still pointless. Embrace is cheapest and tied for best.

vs. TEQ: Finally a multi-wound target, time for kiss to shine? No. Compared to a basic attack, the -1 armor doubles the number of wounds, and d3 damage doubles it again *assuming no damage is wasted, which is highly unlikely*. The embrace's -3 AP still quadruples the wounds without any chance of wasted damage. And, it's cheaper.

Against high wounds and bad armor, the kiss is best. Against high toughness and bad armor, the caress is best. Against almost anything you normally will fight, the embrace is best, AND it is cheapest. Sooo... my decision was easy ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452321.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730058/9452342.page GMT