<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Snipers in Renegades & Heretics"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Snipers in Renegades & Heretics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449107.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449110.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449131.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449157.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics
 Trickstick wrote:
I'm not that impressed. You can only take 2 snipers and every time you take a casualty there is a 1/6 chance of wiping the squad. The stalkers rule is nice I guess. I would rather make Marauders into sacrificial meat shields, using brutes to tank wounds and with a 4+ save. As the casualty amount doesn't really affect them they are suited to dying and shotguns make them good at close up work.


Speaking of the Stalker rule, the +1 for being in cover, think that means they are +2 to their armor for being in cover? Basically this unit would be like marine snipers in that sense, but the -1 to hit them is pretty solid. I agree that they seem more suited for up close and personal work. They are pretty much exactly the same as they were in 7th, but just a little cheaper. They also changed brutes from T4 to T3 to avoid mixed toughness. I've been wanting to convert a squad of these guys to function like a renegade inquisition, or rag tag A-Team of outcasts. In the moral rule was too gakky. Now you can at least re-roll that one, or take an enforcer with them.

2 snipers is pretty bleh though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449188.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics can take marauders as meat shields and close range killers but that's not what I'm asking :-) I want them as snipers for my Alpha Legion force. But at two weapons per squad how many will I need? My current thoughts are to field 2 squads in a Valkyrie and drop them somewhere nice to snipe from. With -1 to hit and a 3+ save in cover they're gonna be a pain to remove, and that 1/6 chance to completely flee isn't worth worrying about at all. If they get shot they'll likely take more than 1 casualty anyway, not likely that they take only 1 casualty and then you roll a 1. And if you do, well that's why you took 3 detachments and loaded up on command points right? 1/6 is easily mitigated by a re-roll.

So would 4 sniper rifles really be bothering characters? Or would I need 4 squads for 8 guns? I like the idea of using Marauders as spec-op sniper teams. They're as close as I can get to chaos scouts.

4 squads of sniper Marauders are coming in at only a little more than a single Heavy Bolter/Autocannon even split Havoc squad. That havoc squad can pump out tons of shots and threaten many things, would 8 sniper rifles bring to the table that amount of value? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449297.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449297.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics
Necrons and Guard, definitely as the buffs some of there characters give would make them a primary target before you open up with other units.

A full conscript squad isn't going anywhere with a commissar behind it, but take him out and they run in drovers.

Personally, I'm running with a full scout sniper squad (combat squad split) to give me the table coverage. If you want 1 turn kills then you probably need the 4 units but if your happy to plug away then 1-2 units should be fine. Who knows, they might pop a hive tyrant with the odd mortal wound. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449326.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449332.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics
 Trickstick wrote:
A unit of 5 with 2 snipers isn't horribly bad I guess. 34 pts makes them spamable, although they are behind the 5 ratlings you would get for 35 pts. They are far more durable than the ratlings though, with t3 and the -1 to hit from being stalkers. So they are not really the best snipers but you could probably manage something with them.


Didn't realize they were that cheap, that gives you 5 units (10 rifles) for the about same price as a 10 man camo scout unit and you can cover a lot more of the board. If you've got the slots I'd probably take at least 3 units and add a few units that my opponent couldn't afford to ignore early on.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449364.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449364.page GMT Snipers in Renegades & Heretics
I'm looking at Marauder snipers backed up by Disciples to fill out my model mass and give me cheaper elite shooting (BS3+ all around and lots of plasma). But it's been a long time since I played, back then snipers were good. I know they got crap in 7th but I don't know just how good they are in 8th yet.

With 36" range on these sniper rifles is that enough to deploy them in cover game start or should I be considering airdropping them via Valkyries onto the board? I'm interested to try the gamble and have the birds blaze across the table and chuck out a couple sniper teams into choice terrain, suffering the risk of death and -1 to hit the turn they drop. My own Hydra Drop Troops! I like the idea of this but I'm approaching this practically, if they can serve by deploying them right away I'll look at putting the Valkyrie points elsewhere.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/730074/9449648.page GMT