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				<title>Tyranid players:  Hive Crone vs Harpy</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I am looking at the multitude of Tyranid monsters/squads.  I have not played since 5th or 6th and this update is pretty overwhelming.  Every time I see the Tyranid stuff, there seems to be more and more powerful choices for a player.<br /> <br /> I am looking at Harpy vs Hive Crone.  I'd like to get $0.02 from 'Nid players, asking which one they prefer and why.  Please don't answer with "they're both good, depends on my opponent".<br /> <br /> Hive Crone:  Drool cannon, stinger salvo, tentaclids, and wicked spur, comes out to 143 points.<br /> <br /> Harpy:  2x stranglethorn cannons and scything wings comes out to 167.  If you change to 2 heavy venom cannons, 151.<br /> <br /> Their stat lines are identical except the crone having an extra attack.  The extra attack is with the wicked spur, S8 -3 and d3 wounds is no slouch.  Hive Crone seems to specialize againt flyers and vehicles, getting a bonus to hit flyers with tentaclids and bonus damage against vehicles.   Harpy uses stranglethorn effectively against large units and heavy venom cannons against sturdier targets.<br /> <br /> The harpy has some extra abilities, such as sonic screech and spore mine cysts.  I can see the screech being useful after the harpy destroys a smaller target with its awesome movement and then later comes to reinforce a swirling battle.  Other than that, it seems to be more bark than bite.  Spore mine cysts have some potential for damage.  <br /> <br /> Personally, I would likely field the crone before the harpy.  A few reasons:<br /> <br /> 1.  He's a bit cheaper<br /> 2.  He has shorter range stuff and more combat potential.  I play Orks and Tyranids.  Up close and personal is my style.<br /> 3.  The harpy has a lot of extra rules.  I am liable to forget and/or misplay the rules.  Dropping the spore mines in the wrong spot could potentially screw up your opponent or even screw yourself over.  <br /> 4.  The harpy, I probably wouldn't even assault with it.  I'd just shoot with it while dropping mines on my opponent.  A valid strategy but not one i'm used to doing,<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ bucheonman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think a Harpy with Stranglethorn Cannons could be the bubble-wrap buster 'Nids have been wanting, but i'll need to do some testing before I get behind that too fully.<br /> <br /> I also feel like there is some higher level plays that might involve the Sonic Screech, in that in a clutch turn that might help swing some grindy combats in our favor, but again, thats some tech I don't think people have maximized yet.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Jun 2017 17:39:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ NewTruthNeomaxim]]></author>
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