http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net ACs to their DS's instead of the Heavy Bolter. Surely, getting the 5+ Invuln by always Advancing is better to keep the -1 buff going (which is why you're taking the shroud in the first place). I'd rather keep the platform cheaper if I'm not going to be able to shoot.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/731303/9468229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/731303/9468229.page GMT