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First off I am new to the forum and I thought I would contribute to the community by sharing a conversation I had with a FW rep not to long ago regarding whether or not we will ever see the FW custodes models make it into the 40k universe. Here is a part of the conversation I had with them!

Whilst it would be great to see more of the forge world Custodes units bridge the gap to 40k, the design team may decide to keep the Heresy universes and brand separate from each other. This also include the Legion specific units found solely in the Horus Heresy rule books, These also do not have 40k data sheets.

If we are to get Custodes Data sheets, they will likely be seen in a future Imperial armour campaign book so please keep an eye on the community forum and face book posts for all the latest updates.


So with that said I thought I would see if anyone has created some experimental rules for these models that would allow me to bring my models into 8th edition 40k and tie me over until a new Imperial Armor was released. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find a thread in the 40k Experimental Proposed Rules section... so I thought i would create one! And post some experimental set of rules for each of the models that FW produces in the hopes of tying us all over

Armed with the Horus Heresy Book VII Inferno, Imperial Armor Index: Forces of the Adeptus Astrates and Imperium Index 2. I have reviewed and have tried to put together a balanced set of rules for each of the FW 30k Custodes Models. I have not play tested these rules yet, and I am definitely looking for any feedback I can get on them. I will be posting each Model's rules individually, as my days can get pretty busy.

So lets dive in!



Relic Custodes Galatus Contemptor Dreadnought[/b] - 235pts PL: 15

M * WS * BS * S 8 T 7 W 12 A * Ld 9 Sv 3+

[b]Damage:

7-12: M: 9'' WS: 2+ BS: 2+ A: 5
3-6: M: 6'' WS: 3+ BS: 3+ A: 4
1-2: M: 4'' WS: 4+ BS: 4+ A: D3

Wargear:

Search Light
Smoke Launchers
One Relic Galatus Warblade with in built Infernus Incinerator
Dreadnought Praesidum Shield

Galatus warblade: Range: Melee, Type Melee, S: +1, AP: -3 D: 3

Infernus Incinerator: Range: 8’’, Type: Heavy D6, S: 6, AP -1 D: 1

Dreadnought Praesidum Shield: This shield generates a powerful energy field which reinforces and amplifies the Contemptor’s Atomantic Shielding.
Any enemy models wishing to assault or engage the Relic Galatus Contemptor resolve their attacks with a -1 modifier to HIT. NOTE: If the Galatus Contemptor is reduced to 1-2 W’s this modifier is lost, as the force field generated by this shield has gotten substantially weaker.

This shield also confers a 3+ invulnerable save to the Relic Galatus Contemptor Dreadnought. However, as the Galatus Contemptor Dreadnought takes Damage, this energy field strength is gradually reduced. Use the Following Damage table to determine the appropriate strength of the Invulnerable save.

Damage

7-12+: Sv 3++
3-6: Sv 4++
1-2: Sv 5++ (-1 to HIT modifier is also lost)

[b]Special Rules:

Relic of Ancient Glory: Roll a D6 each time this model loses a wound on the roll of a 6 that damaged is ignored and the wound is not lost.
Explodes: If this model is reduced to 0 wounds, roll a D6 before removing it from the battlefield; on a 6 it explodes and each unit within 6in suffers D3 mortal wounds.

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Relic Legio Custodes Contemptor-Achillius Dreadnought [/b] – 145pt PL: 15

M* WS* BS* S 8 T 7 W 12 A 5 Ld 9 Sv 3+

[b]Damage:

7-12+: M 9in WS 2+ BS 2+ A: 5
3-6: M 6in WS 3+ BS 3+ A: 4
1-2: M 4in WS 4+ BS 4+ A: D3

Wargear:

Two Close Combat Weapons with built in Lastrum Storm Bolters
Smoke Launchers
Searchlight
Automantic Shielding- Gives the Contemptor- Achillius a 5+ Invulnerable Save

Options:

An Achillus Dreadnought may be equipped with an:

Achillius Relic Dreadspear with built in Corvae Las-Pulser-….50pt
NOTE: Should the player equip a Dreadspear, and wish to fire the Corvae Las-Pulser, it is assumed both hands are in use to aim and fire this weapon. As such the other range weapons equipped cannot be fired in the same shooting phase as the dreadspear.

An Achilius Dreadnought may replace any of its Lastrum Storm Bolters with one of the following:

An Adrathic Destructor: 20pts
A Single Infernus Incinerator: 5pts

Weapons:

Dreadspear: Range: Melee, Type: Melee, S: +2 AP: -4, D: 4
Corvae Las-Pulser: Range 36’’ Type: Heavy 1, S: 9, AP-3, D: D6
Lastrum Storm Bolters: Range: 24’’ Type: Assault 2, S 5, AP -1, D: 1
Infernus Incinerator: Range 8’’ Type: Heavy D6, S: 6, AP-1, D: 1 – This weapon Automatically hits.

Adrathic Destructor Standard: Range 12’’ Type: Assault 1, S: 5, AP: -3, D: 2
Supercharged: Range 12’’ Type: Assault D3, S: 6, AP -4, D: D6 – If you make one or more hit rolls of 1, the bearer suffers D6 mortal wounds after all of this weapon’s shots have been resolved.

Special Rules

Unstoppable Fury: You can re-roll hits rolls of 1 for this model if it is in Close Combat.
Relic of Ancient Glory: Roll a D6 each time this model loses a wound on the roll of a 6 that damaged is ignored and the wound is not lost
Explodes: If this model is reduced to 0 wounds, roll a D6 before removing it from the battlefield; on a 6 it explodes and each unit within 6in suffers D3 mortal wounds.



Here are the first set of experimental rules! Please let me know what you think! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/731774/9475601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/731774/9475601.page GMT
Broadly we're thinking along the same lines, but it seems to me like you've made them too weak and tremendously overpriced on PL (maximum upgrades your Achillius should be 12PL, minimum upgrades you're literally doubling the price if you use it with PL instead of points). These are the 300pt/15PL super-Dreadnaughts, they should be super-Dreadnaughts.

PL costs and statlines are pretty similar, but I think you've been too cautious with the weapon stats, and if any Dreadnaught in the 41st Milennium deserves a 2+ save it's these ones (especially given that the Relic Contemptor does). And taking the Las-Pulsar (d3 twin-linked lascannon shots) and translating it as a single lascannon just seems silly to me.

I freely admit that I was too gung-ho with the special rules in my implementation ("Heliothermic Detonation" ought to just be two damage on the storm bolters) and I really haven't done the math on my Preternatural Skill rule, but here's a link to the ones I'd written:
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