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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello all, curious as to the thoughts on strength/weaknesses or recommendations for the following list.<br /> <br /> Company Commander<br /> Company Commander<br /> Company Commander<br /> <br /> Commissar<br /> Commissar<br /> Commissar<br /> <br /> Conscripts x 30<br /> Conscripts x 30<br /> Conscripts x 30<br /> Infantry Squad - Lascannon & Sniper Rifle<br /> Infantry Squad - Lascannon & Sniper Rifle<br /> <br /> Tempestus Scions 5 men- 2 x Plasma Guns<br /> Tempestus Scions 5 men - 2 x Plasma Guns<br /> Tempestus Scions 5 men - 2 x Plasma Guns<br /> <br /> Ratlings x 5<br /> <br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - Autocannon, Lascannon, Mortar<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - Autocannon, Lascannon, Mortar<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - Autocannon, Lascannon, Mortar<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - Autocannon, Lascannon, Mortar<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - Autocannon, Lascannon, Mortar<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - 2x Lascannons, Mortar<br /> <br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - 2x Lascannons, Autocannon<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - 2x Lascannons, Autocannon<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - 2x Lascannons, Autocannon<br /> Heavy Weapon Squad - 2x Lascannons, Autocannon<br /> <br /> Manticore<br /> Manticore<br /> Manticore<br /> <br /> Taurox Prime - 2x Autocannons, Gatling Cannon<br /> Taurox Prime - 2x Autocannons, Gatling Cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Strategy - Infantry Squads hold objectives at home, Taurox either stand and shoot or move ahead (Try using them to block sniper <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> to Characters).<br /> Conscripts move for objectives or stay as a meatshield.<br /> Scions, hold since shooting shouldn't be needed until turn 3. Preferably move to contest one objective or steal from the enemy.<br /> <br /> Ratlings shoot enemy characters commissars etc.<br /> <br /> Manticores shoot large W/T targets first then, terminators and such, then regular troops if the above are all dead. Around turn 4/5 move to objectives<br /> Heavy weapon teams shoot whatever is available.<br /> <br /> Ideally I table people, especially for kill points. Although ITC format is based on unit power lever which is nice.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 1.  What detachments are you using?  <br /> 2.  Are your Scions in squads of 5 or 10?  I assume 5?  I think you should combine two of them into a squad of 10, and turn the other one into a command squad.  Then you should consider picking up a Tempestor.<br /> 3.  You've got 3 company commanders.  Statistically, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HWS</span> are not worth giving an order to, unless you've just got a spare commander to meet the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> tax.  I'd say switch one to a Tempestor.<br /> 4. You've got no astropaths.  Get astropaths.  They're only 15 points and they're full of awesome.<br /> 5.  I'm not a fan of the autocannons.  They're too expensive to be spare wounds for your lascannons.  <br /> 6.  You have 30 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(638);'>HWTs</span>.  30.  Wow.  That's going to take up a lot of space.<br /> <br /> I'd be interested to see how it plays out though, can you do some battle reports once its in action?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ argonak]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 3 spearheads.<br /> <br /> I like the 5 man squads for the versatility drop wise. Although I would have liked 10 man squads better, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span> I don't have the models for them.<br /> <br /> I likely will do more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>/Mortars and take away all of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> just don't have enough put together at the moment. Plan to eventually do 2-1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>-Mortar squads. Considered Yarrick a lot or Harker for the reroll ones bubble.<br /> <br /> I wanted a commander for each conscript squad just as well as required for the spearhead Detatchments.<br /> <br /> Was on the edge of astropath instead of ratlings<br /> . <br /> With first turn against an army that wants to reserve their army or very low model count i expect to table then by sheer firepower. . Played some smaller point games with no manticores and was tabeling everyone within 3 turns for 5 games now. However going second means the enemy has the first shooting phase which could end badly given the right build but they have a lot of hurt to shoot at the conscript horde, manticores/taurox. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> And i will try to at least do some simple pics before/after each player turn when I get a chance to play with this list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:15:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ shank911]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732414/9487425.page"><b>shank911 wrote:</b></a><br/>3 spearheads.<br /> <br /> I like the 5 man squads for the versatility drop wise. Although I would have liked 10 man squads better, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span> I don't have the models for them.<br /> <br /> I likely will do more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>/Mortars and take away all of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> just don't have enough put together at the moment. Plan to eventually do 2-1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>-Mortar squads. Considered Yarrick a lot or Harker for the reroll ones bubble.<br /> <br /> I wanted a commander for each conscript squad just as well as required for the spearhead Detatchments.<br /> <br /> Was on the edge of astropath instead of ratlings<br /> . <br /> With first turn against an army that wants to reserve their army or very low model count i expect to table then by sheer firepower. . Played some smaller point games with no manticores and was tabeling everyone within 3 turns for 5 games now. However going second means the enemy has the first shooting phase which could end badly given the right build but they have a lot of hurt to shoot at the conscript horde, manticores/taurox. <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> And i will try to at least do some simple pics before/after each player turn when I get a chance to play with this list.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm putting a heavy weapon squad together right now.  I made the mortars and lascannons per standard, gave the missile launcher to a standing infantry, and I used some leftover parts from the Taurox track system (I use wheels because I hate the tracks) for the Heavy Bolter stands.  I haven't decided what to do about the auto cannons (or if I'll bother since they're so overpriced this edition).  Did you use the normal tripod for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> or did you convert something up?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 23:24:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ argonak]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Correct I used the tripod for my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>ACs</span> I've always been a fan of them and hopefully they go down to 10points in the codex and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> to 15-16ish then might be harder than just choosing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 04:20:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ shank911]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Autocannon has always been my favorite heavy for Guard infantry units. 1 less S from a missle, 2 less from a lascannon, not the greatest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, BUT.... don't ever let anyone convince you that a 48 inch reach that now deals 2 damage and most critically has TWO SHOTS is not worth taking. A decent heavy weapon that will average one hit Every turn can be huge next to a lascannon that half of the time will miss and therefore help you zero percent is a nice toy to bring to any party. That said, i have left the days of infantry heavy lists and have become a huge tread head. Though im always happy to see it when someone retains the enormous pile of meat strategy.<br /> <br /> Please do on the pics/mild bat rep. Im am very curious indeed. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:57:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DanroMalaw]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My list looks like it will change again. From the above slightly, I looked into take the prime and command squad, with a group or two of scions. May drop one heavy weapons team to open room and the ratlings for some more wiggle room since I dont think 5 ratlings will add a terrible lot for the points. <br /> <br /> Thankfully painting isnt required <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>, since I am a tediously slow painter but playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> and layering infantry can take it's time ha.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:04:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You will run out of friends quickly]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:47:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d7dfffe53d109f9cd102ab2aeb5f7ec2.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732414/9491120.page"><b>sumi808 wrote:</b></a><br/>You will run out of friends quickly</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> HA!]]></description>
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