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				<description><![CDATA[ So, now that 8th has changed a lot, which Space Marine chapter makes the best Bike Army now?  Dark Angels Ravenwing, White Scars, Deathwatch, or has another chapter shown that it can make a better bike army in 8th?<br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(215);'>SG</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sadly bikers suck gretchin dick in 8th.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ravenwing Bikers are now 2 wounds, and have double the inherent firepower they used to have - which I expect is true of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Bikers across the board.  Ravenwing retain a Jink rule, which gives them a 5++ on turns they advance.  And Sammael is now a beast in close combat, particularly on turns he charges.  I don't know how Ravenwing stack up against other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> bikers, but I've been happy to have them in my lists thus far.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:15:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/32efdcf311f45ccbae5e6b2a3407bac0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488172.page"><b>ServiceGames wrote:</b></a><br/>So, now that 8th has changed a lot, which Space Marine chapter makes the best Bike Army now?  Dark Angels Ravenwing, White Scars, Deathwatch, or has another chapter shown that it can make a better bike army in 8th?<br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(215);'>SG</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Wait a little longer for the codex. you may or may not get a surprise inside. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:17:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ At present Ravenwing probably have the crown; bikes generally are a bit worse than they were, but Ravenwing have better bike-mounted characters and better melee bikes than the competition, and the Darkshroud aura is a pretty big edge for them when drawing comparisons.<br /> <br /> White Scars don't really have anything useful at present; Kor'sarro Khan supports a one-dimensional melee deathball and doesn't do a lot else. Deathwatch have pound for pound the best individual bikes (cost of a normal Marine veteran biker with the same statline, but getting special ammo and fall-back-and-charge instead of bodyguard), but since they can't have bike characters, bike special weapons, attack bikes, or Land Speeders you can't really build an army around them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:34:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I suspect Deathwatch bikers would fit fairly well in a mixed-Imperial list designed around being fast, but it wouldn't be a pure <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> list or a pure single-faction one. How well that works depends on your opinion of Assorted Imperial Random lists.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:38:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't really know, but aren't Wolves using Bikes now?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488181.page"><b>pismakron wrote:</b></a><br/>Sadly bikers suck gretchin dick in 8th.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> do fungi have genitalia?<br /> <br /> that said bikes are certainly lackluster]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:00:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/85c644998a088ef71342ca7b09f6657b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488530.page"><b>G00fySmiley wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488181.page"><b>pismakron wrote:</b></a><br/>Sadly bikers suck gretchin dick in 8th.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> do fungi have genitalia?<br /> <br /> that said bikes are certainly lackluster</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> "Inhaling gretchin spores" just doesn't have the same ring to it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:07:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Bikes aren't lackluster, they're not just as broken and awful as they were in 7th.  They're fine for what they are/do.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:17:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm reasonably sure that Ultramarines have the best bike army <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:20:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b96f60f8999824fe27374887dc338df0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488564.page"><b>Elbows wrote:</b></a><br/>Bikes aren't lackluster, they're not just as broken and awful as they were in 7th.  They're fine for what they are/do.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Agree. In 7th, bike armies started to grate on me after seeing quite a few in my local, though I'd like for the White Scars to have a bit more going for them. They are, to me, the most interesting loyalist chapter and I'd love to fight them more often. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Zan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Space Wolves Wolf Guard Bikers.<br /> We got a bit snubbed in 7th having no access to a Troop option for Bikes - a downside of using the Codex as alcohol coasters I suppose.<br /> <br /> Cons.<br /> 3ppm more than your standard vanilla bike and no access to Heavy weaponry.<br /> No Combat Squad ability - questionable relevance.<br /> <br /> Pros.<br /> Base loadout is grenades, two Bolters, a Bolt Pistol and Chainsword.<br /> Option to take a third Bolter - not swap for just take - that can be left as is or upgraded to any Space Wolves combi-weapon.<br /> Two standard attacks, three for the leader.<br /> Three and four if you didn't upgrade the Chainswords to Power Weapons.<br /> Full access to the Space Wolves' melee weapon's list.<br /> The ability to put a Storm Shield on any or all models in the unit.<br /> Elite choice rather than Fast Attack - Don't know how that calculates for other Marine armies but for Space Wolves it's wonderful.<br /> <br /> I think the Wolves definitely go in the running for best bike army.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 03:08:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dakka Wolf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b96f60f8999824fe27374887dc338df0.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488564.page"><b>Elbows wrote:</b></a><br/>Bikes aren't lackluster, they're not just as broken and awful as they were in 7th.  They're fine for what they are/do.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> lackluster does not mean awful, it just means dull, regular. lacking glitz or shine. they are not terrible, they are not great they are just fairly middle of the road ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:24:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ G00fySmiley]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wolfguard bikers, nuff said.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:55:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/e1108dc2b347a1b362bc29818d39cf0e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732523/9488527.page"><b>Talamare wrote:</b></a><br/>I don't really know, but aren't Wolves using Bikes now?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> they always had Bikes, in the past they were just not worth it<br /> now they are the best]]></description>
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