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				<description><![CDATA[ Has anyone tried mounting the magnet on the TOP of a base? In essence, the base would be sandwiched between the magnet on top and the metal on the bottom. I ask because I am making custom bases, and I am not excited to drill holes in the base and concerned about how strong the magnet would need to be to manage this.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Jul 2017 01:41:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Question about magnetizing bases</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The short answer is that it won't work because of the amount of distance you're putting between the magnet and the metal surface.  It's theoretically possible that with thick enough metal and a large enough magnet that you'd get some attraction, but at that point it's all more work and expense than just drilling a hole in the base.  The bond will also be much weaker.  I've magnetized hundreds of models and terrain pieces over the years (dig through my gallery if you want examples) using a variety of magnet sizes and grades.  In all cases, attractive force decreases rapidly with distance.  I go to great lengths to make sure magnets are flush with the surface for exactly this reason.<br /> <br /> I have to ask, what's the issue with drilling holes in the base?  You can get rare earth magnets in diameters that are easily compatible with the range of drill bits that will work in a pin vise.  The process can be tedious when working in large batches, but it's by no means difficult.  I've yet to ruin a single model by adding magnets.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Jul 2017 06:55:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks. After considering my options, it seems drilling is my only real option.<br /> <br /> Any advice for the number, diameter, and grade of rare earth magnets for an Imperial Knight base? Also, can you recommend a bit for a vise?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:50:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Suzuteo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've used 3-4 6mm diameter N45 neo-dymium magnets with a thickness of 2mm to firmly hold down a knight on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Plastic base.<br /> <br /> Those fit nicely into the clearance beneath a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> knight base and are more than strong enough to hold the knight (plastic or resin) securely without being too strong.<br /> <br /> See: <a href="https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/disc-magnets-neodymium/disc-magnet-diameter-6mm-height-2mm-neodymium-n45-nickel-plated_S-06-02-N" target="_new" rel="nofollow">https://www.supermagnete.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span>/eng/disc-magnets-neodymium/disc-magnet-diameter-6mm-height-2mm-neodymium-n45-nickel-plated_S-06-02-N</a><br /> <br /> A problem when supergluing rare earth magnets to big bases is the flex of the base. For that reason I drill a hole with the exact diameter of the magnet into a bit of plasicard (sheet plastic from the model store) use plastic cement to stick that to the base and then superglue the magnets into that.<br /> <br /> If you are making custom bases from resin, odds are they are at least 3-4mm thick, so a 2mm deep recess should be no problem at all, assuming that you are using a drill with a piece of tape or marker to help you gage the depth correctly.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Jul 2017 20:22:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Stephanius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9e27c40dffcdbc5285d2866153147e53.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732877/9495701.page"><b>Stephanius wrote:</b></a><br/>I've used 3-4 6mm diameter N45 neo-dymium magnets with a thickness of 2mm to firmly hold down a knight on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Plastic base.<br /> <br /> Those fit nicely into the clearance beneath a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> knight base and are more than strong enough to hold the knight (plastic or resin) securely without being too strong.<br /> <br /> See: <a href="https://www.supermagnete.de/eng/disc-magnets-neodymium/disc-magnet-diameter-6mm-height-2mm-neodymium-n45-nickel-plated_S-06-02-N" target="_new" rel="nofollow">https://www.supermagnete.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span>/eng/disc-magnets-neodymium/disc-magnet-diameter-6mm-height-2mm-neodymium-n45-nickel-plated_S-06-02-N</a><br /> <br /> A problem when supergluing rare earth magnets to big bases is the flex of the base. For that reason I drill a hole with the exact diameter of the magnet into a bit of plasicard (sheet plastic from the model store) use plastic cement to stick that to the base and then superglue the magnets into that.<br /> <br /> If you are making custom bases from resin, odds are they are at least 3-4mm thick, so a 2mm deep recess should be no problem at all, assuming that you are using a drill with a piece of tape or marker to help you gage the depth correctly.</div></blockquote><br /> Thanks. I was actually thinking of using dry-processed HDF.<br /> <br /> Do you have any experience with magnetic strips/sheets?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Jul 2017 02:33:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Suzuteo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Question about magnetizing bases</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Since you're in the US, the best place to get magnets is from K&J Magnetics.  Order whatever size works for you and then go down the hardware store and get a bit to match.  Since all the measurements are in imperial (fractions of an inch), it's very easy to get 1/8" magnets and then a 1/8" bit to match.  I can't tell you what size to get because I've never even seen an Imperial Knight in person.  I can tell you that if you need something really strong, there's nothing wrong with drilling a hole all the way through the base, gluing in a magnet that's thicker than the base, and then covering the portion that sticks out above the base with texture paste, rocks, etc.  It just depends on how big the base is and what look you're going for.<br /> <br /> I've never used strips or sheets, but I have used sheet steel from the hardware store (HVAC department) and it works like a charm.  Attach the steel to whatever you want, put magnets in the base or model, and you're good to go. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Jul 2017 06:48:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nodri]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, I am thinking of buying these 1/4" wide x 1/8" deep N42s to match my 1/8" HDF bases:<br /> <a href="https://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D42" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D42</a><br /> <br /> I am magnetizing Skitarii and Knights. So I am thinking 2 magnets for my Dunecrawlers and Ironstriders (which are walker vehicles) and 3 magnets for my Knight Crusader. Is this too many?<br /> <br /> I will drill through the base with a 1/4" bit, glue the magnet to another piece of HDF (or something that will be a part of the base), insert the magnet through the top of the hole, then glue it in place on top of the larger piece of HDF.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 17 Jul 2017 07:07:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Suzuteo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/732877/9496315.page"><b>Suzuteo wrote:</b></a><br/>Yeah, I am thinking of buying these 1/4" wide x 1/8" deep N42s to match my 1/8" HDF bases:<br /> <a href="https://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D42" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=D42</a><br /> <br /> I am magnetizing Skitarii and Knights. So I am thinking 2 magnets for my Dunecrawlers and Ironstriders (which are walker vehicles) and 3 magnets for my Knight Crusader. Is this too many?<br /> <br /> I will drill through the base with a 1/4" bit, glue the magnet to another piece of HDF (or something that will be a part of the base), insert the magnet through the top of the hole, then glue it in place on top of the larger piece of HDF.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 1/4" x 1x8" should work fine, a bit thicker than what I use, but that should be ok. <br /> <br /> I am mostly using magnetic sheets for the smaller plastic models. Only for the 40mm (terminator) bases I use a single 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>mm</span> neo-dym magnet since it's more convenient with the nubs under the base.<br /> The magnetic sheet I use has an adhesive foil stuck to it. I use that foil to combine the thickness of two sheets - since that matches the clearance under <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>th</span> plastic bases. I cut the foil with scissors or ruler and box cutter and  scrape away any plastic nubs or raised letters, then I put a dab of super-glue down as insurance against failing self-adhesion and stick the magnet foil under the base. <br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/891239-Magents%2C%20Magnetizing%20with%20magnetic%20sheets%20and%20neo-dym%20magnets.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2017/7/18/891239_sm-Magents%2C%20Magnetizing%20with%20magnetic%20sheets%20and%20neo-dym%20magnets.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /> <br /> I hope this helps.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:30:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Stephanius]]></author>
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