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Imperial Guard Pts 1500: PR: 99

HQ-268 /17
KC Pask, Vanquisher w/ lascannon-
Company Commander w/plasma pistol

TROOPS 275/15
1st Heavy bolter, plasma gun
2nd Heavy bolter, plasma gun
3rd Heavy bolter, plasma gun
4rd Heavy bolter, plasma gun
5rd Heavy bolter, plasma gun

FAST – 327 /19
2x Hellhounds w/ heavy bolters
X3 Scout Sentinels w/ lascannons

HEAVY –630/48
LR SQUAD- 1xLRMBT w/ 1x lascanon, heavy bolter sponsons-190 1xLRMBT w/hull heavy bolter, heavy bolter sponsons
1X LR DEM w 3x flamers
HEAVY WEAPONS SQUAD w/ mortars

Updated the list on 7/19. I left the old list as a reference.

Imperial Guard Pts 1498/1500: PR: 98

HQ-263 /17
KC Pask, Vanquisher w/ lascannon-
Company Commander w/ power sword, bolt pistol

ELITES-137/ 8
X5 Ratlings-
Command Squad w/ x4 melta guns
Spec Weapons Squad-3x flamers

TROOPS 180/9
1st auto cannon, grenade launcher
2nd auto cannon, grenade launcher
3rd auto cannon, grenade launcher


FAST – 327 /19
2x Hellhounds w/ heavy bolters
X3 Scout Sentinels w/ lascannons

HEAVY –591/45
LR SQUAD- 1xLRMBT w/ 1x lascanon, heavy bolter sponsons-190 1xLRMBT w/hull heavy bolter, heavy bolter sponsons
1X LR DEM w 3x flamers


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For 10 extra points, Pask is an absolute no-brainer to me. Unless I've missed a faq, he can give orders to his own tank since he can order characters, unlike the regular tank commander. 2+ vs 3+ and issues two orders vs one for the regular commander as well.

I hate taking BS 4+ (old BS 3) lascannons. I'd lose the LC on the regular LR and have 2 with 3 HB. Or take the saved points and put a HF on each in case it got charged.

Ratlings look good on paper, but I haven't seen them in action yet.

HB are the way to go. I'm weaning myself off auto cannons. They were the way go to in 7th, but HBs are 8 points vs 15 for the AC. I'm working towards 3 HBs to every 1 AC.

If I was taking Scout Sentinels, they'd have HFs. Earlier comment on BS 4+ LCs applies.

SW squad with 3 flamers looks like money to me, but might need a ride. I might lose a couple sentinels and take a Taurox. 85 points with 4 S7 D2 shots and gets those flamers in range and protected.

Hellhounds look nasty this edition, but I haven't seen them in action.

Love the 3 HFs on the close range Demolisher.

3 HW squads with all mortars is 81 points vs 93 for Wyvern with HB. That's 9 D6 shots vs 4 D6 re-rolling wounds.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9500646.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9500646.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9503014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9503014.page GMT
Alternatively, use the grenade launcher points to upgrade all your Autocannons to Lascannons. There are almost no targets where an autocannon is better than a lascannon. Someone did the math, but things like Rough Riders is about it. Even at BS 4+ it just doesn't work out well by the numbers.

I don't see any delivery methods for your Special Weapon Squad or your Command Squad. Any competent opponent is going to wipe them out in the first volley if they're just on the table. Am I missing something?

edit: The last comment is entirely subjective, but I think you're over committed on your armor, without the units needed to protect them. I'd drop at least one tank and add more infantry if I were you. But that's more of a personal thing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9503028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9503028.page GMT AC with HB and plasma guns. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9504852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/733210/9504852.page GMT