<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? Load up on plasma, a particular vehicle or something else?
I'm going up against world eaters soon and am looking for ideas. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558812.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558822.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? IG lists used to run BAO and most other tournaments before it.

Basilisks, Conscripts, Scions, Heavy Weapon Teams and maybe a Taurox or Manticore or four.

IG lists of that nature took 1st, 2nd AND 3rd at BAO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558853.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves?
 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Is there anything particularly useful?
Load up on plasma, a particular vehicle or something else?
I'm going up against world eaters soon and am looking for ideas.


Plasma works good against marines, especially on BS3+ scions or veterans. If you've got Scions, HSVG also does very well against Marines. HSVG are 4 shots S4 Ap-2 at 24". You can bring 4 in a full squad of scions, and reroll 1s with a Tempestor Prime supporting you. That's an average 13 hits, and 7 wounds at -2 to their save. Pretty good for 18 points a dude. I like them in a full squad of scions to use them as extra wounds, and they hit pretty hard also.

You can also get surprising results with sheer volume of fire. A full squad of 3 Mortars do average .75 wounds to Meq. But they only cost 27 points and they have indirect fire. Load up 4 full squads and you'll see veins start to pop out of your Marine opponents forehead as you roll 36 dice a turn, no matter where he hides, all for 108 points. Sometimes lady luck will be in your favor and he'll roll a bunch of 1s, but even straight odds you'll usually make your points back in two turns.

Taurox Prime does good work as well. Load it up with the Gatling cannon, 2 HSVGs, and a Stormbolter. At 24" you're laying down 22 (24 at 12") S4 shots and 8 S4 -2AP shots, for 98 points. Oh, and they're BS3+. Your opponents will learn to make these a priority target though so watch out.

My strategy for guard so far has been to bring a lot of units that can all do work. It probably wouldn't get me far in a tournament, but its fun and usually successful. My opponent never has any single thing he should be focusing his attention on, which means he's left making hard choices.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9558895.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? I didn't think the hsvg stood up to plasma?

I have about 6 russ I'm trying to figure out what to do with too.

Is there a particularly good variant to go with?
I wouldn't even mind converting them into a chimera variant if something there stands out. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559169.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? MEQ, so they have a role. Plasma is universally useful so often overshadows the other choices.

As for Russes, I think they're mostly crap so far. The random damage output is annoying for such an expensive tank. I've run all of the variants and the only ones I still use, on ocassion, are the punisher and demolisher. I prefer infantry and artillery though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559236.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? i could see converting the russ into a basilisk or manticore variant pretty easily.

i think that i may try out some mortars too.
i like to roll buckets of dice ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559269.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559269.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves?
 usernamesareannoying wrote:
which artillery?
i could see converting the russ into a basilisk or manticore variant pretty easily.

i think that i may try out some mortars too.
i like to roll buckets of dice

Right now basilisks are good but Manticores are king.

I hate it, but LR tanks seem to be garbage. I don't play competitive, so I'll probably field them anyway but I won't expect much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559312.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559326.page GMT Best way for guard to deal with 3+ saves?
 usernamesareannoying wrote:
Thanks guys, this is all kind of what i figured.
I didn't think the hsvg stood up to plasma?

I have about 6 russ I'm trying to figure out what to do with too.

Is there a particularly good variant to go with?
I wouldn't even mind converting them into a chimera variant if something there stands out.


Plasma is better if you drop within 12". But then you're 12 inches away from marines, so I hope you killed them all....

HSVG does good work from 24" away. It depends on your tactics.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/736678/9559411.page GMT