<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords 40k this year, for the first time since I was 10 or 11. Eldar have always been cool to me, and I like the Phoenix Lords in particular, and wanted to try and fit them into a list. The army basically aims to shoot everything to oblivion before they can close in/respond, the Swooping Hawks working on troop lines while the Dark Reapers huddle around the Farseer + Maugan Ra and try and pick off the nastiest targets first. The Farseer is there for the Forewarned stratagem (some protection against deep strikes), to prevent my Dark Reapers from falling to morale tests, and of course to act as a force multiplier to make sure whatever I target doesn't stick around. Two squads of rangers start off on the board to start pinging/moving towards objectives, while Illic and the rest deploy wherever they'll get in the way. The entire army is Alaitoc, to protect myself from enemy fire.

Of course it's my first list so I'd imagine it has glaring flaws, but I'd at least like to keep Maugan Ra and some of his reapers. Any suggestions? Could it put up a decent fight in casual games with friends/entry level tournaments? I'm unfamiliar with what is strong/useful in a typical game so any advice is welcome.

(P.S. - I'll mostly be playing against Orcs, Tau, Dark Eldar and Necrons, occasional IG/Imp Knights)

Craftworld Eldar – Alaitoc (2000 Points Total)

Battalion Detachment (+3 CP, 480 Points)
HQ
-Farseer (Warlord – Puritanical Leader, Shiftshroud of Alanssair) (100)
-Illic Nightspear (80)
Troops
-5x Rangers (60)
-5x Rangers (60)
-5x Rangers (60)
-5x Rangers (60)
-5x Rangers (60)

Outrider Detachment (+1 CP, 435 Points)
HQ
-Baharroth (110)
Fast Attack
-9x Swooping Hawks + Exarch (130)
-9x Swooping Hawks + Exarch (130)
-4x Swooping Hawks + Exarch (65)

Spearhead Detachment (+1 CP, 1085 Points)
HQ
-Maugan Ra (140)
Heavy Support
-9x Dark Reapers + Exarch (270)
-9x Dark Reapers + Exarch (270)
-9x Dark Reapers + Exarch (270)
-4x Dark Reapers + Exarch (135)
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9713209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9713209.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords strikes. It also reduces your number of deployment drops. Hope this helps]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9713344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9713344.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9714615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9714615.page GMT Re:[2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9714628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9714628.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords Eldar in general to be honest. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9715105.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9715105.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
Maybe drop the smaller reaper squad to fill out the third swooping hawk squad, then with the leftovers you could grab a warlock (or 2 if you can do some points finagling).

This is a mean list though, would probably work just fine as is]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9715431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9715431.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
As for warlocks, I was actually considering them originally for conceal, but when you have 3 full DR squads, your opponent can just pick the ones not protected. I'd ideally like to keep the death ball out of smite/reveal range as well. Of course that likely won't work out in practice. Do warlocks have any other advantages that I'm missing? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716747.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
 FruityRollEmUps wrote:
Dark Reapers are 5 points a model, the Launchers themselves being 22, for 27 total. Exarchs are free.

As for warlocks, I was actually considering them originally for conceal, but when you have 3 full DR squads, your opponent can just pick the ones not protected. I'd ideally like to keep the death ball out of smite/reveal range as well. Of course that likely won't work out in practice. Do warlocks have any other advantages that I'm missing?


Good lord even at the old price they were scary, and now they cost 25% less. Nothing makes me want to take all the Plasma Pistol geared Jump troops I can afford to Deep Strike more than the thought of a few big posses of Dark Reapers running around. Not even sure what else to do against them when they come up. Best of luck with the list, and know that of all the Xenos I hate Eldar least of all. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716796.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716855.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716869.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716869.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
The hemlock was great for finishing up anything the reapers almost killed.

Drop 2 ranger squads, one swooping hawk and the unit of 4 reapers? Would cost you a CP (roll outriders into brigade) but those hemlocks are nasty AF.

I was running guilliman parking lot and turn 1 he popped 4 razorbacks with alpha, killed scout squad objective campers with the no LOS autarchs and sniped the hell out my primaris psychers with rangers. It didn't end well for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716889.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
The points for Warlocks are good ones. I'm definitely going to test them out, maybe stick them in Wave Serpents as well (though that might neuter my damage too much for my tastes). I overlooked the other spells for conceal, but the 18" range is still concerning. Against the armies I'll be facing, I don't want to be in range, or want to decimate them by the time I am. Dark Eldar and Tau deep strike exist however, and Death Guard seems popular now, an army which looks like they'll brush off Hawks like flies.

tl;dr, Warlocks are another good suggestion I'll play with + the realization that my "casual" list might be unfun for a casual group. Lots of insight here for a new player, thanks again!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9716908.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
What's the point of the swooping hawks by the way? didnt think that they were good in an Eldar list but they seem pretty popular.

Echo other posters' sentiments about the power of dark reapers and hemlocks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717009.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
Nidzrule! wrote:


What's the point of the swooping hawks by the way? didnt think that they were good in an Eldar list but they seem pretty popular.


Horde control, especially now with the massive nerf to shadow specters.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717032.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords
Nidzrule! wrote:
The funny thing is that the best counter to this list is probably dark reapers themselves as they ignore the -1 to hit.

What's the point of the swooping hawks by the way? didnt think that they were good in an Eldar list but they seem pretty popular.

Echo other posters' sentiments about the power of dark reapers and hemlocks.


Dark Archon said it best. Fairly cheap, and able to drop by units and deal a reasonable amount of mortal wounds, which feths with anything with a high model count. Their gun is only STR 3, but is Assault 4. Hitting on 3's, rerolling on 1's with Baharroth will chew through weaker units, and can rack up a few wounds through luck on something heavier. Plus, 14" move, ability to redeploy, and of the course the mortal wound spreading ability can be used multiple times.

The most important thing though is that their wings look really fantastic painted in interchanging neon pink and blue. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717050.page GMT [2000] - CWE (Alaitoc) - Shooty, Spammy Lords http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745276/9717747.page GMT