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Legion World Eaters
Hq
Kharn the Betrayer 160
Chaos Lord blackmace and power fist 90

Troops
3X 15 Berzerkers 7 chain axes and 8 chain swords, Champion w/ power axe and power fist, Icon of wrath :290 ea total 870

Chaos daemons
Hq
Skarbrand 380

I know that footslog inst the best, but I figured with Skarbrand making them ignore leadership tests might solve this issue. He also gives the berzerkers an extra attack so when combined with the legion trait each berzerker gets +2 attacks on the charge.

Any advice appreciated
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A) Your bois will last longer
B) Skarbrand can't just be taken by himself like that unless you spend a CP to do so.

How about 3x 8 Berzerkers with 7 chain axes + chain swords for the extra attack, champ with power fist + chain sword, icon. Next you put Kharn, the lord with just the mace no fist (or just replace him with a dark apostle for better rerolls and a leadership aura), and an Exalted Champ in the Rhinos with them. Now you've got a Berzerker Horde that can actually get to where they want to go and has rerolls out the behind.

Remember that Berzerkers aren't a toolbox unit. They have one job: drown your opponent in weight of attacks. Forget about champs with multiple weapons unless it's a chain sword. Stack your re-roll auras so you can re-roll hits and wounds. Maybe get some cultists or chaos spawn to run screen for your metal bawkses.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9728990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9728990.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729077.page GMT WE love daemon engines. So helbrute, defiler, forgefiend, maulerfiend and the like. You get more options in FW for khorne engines. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729169.page GMT
Hq
Kharn
Dark apostle
Exalted champion w/ power fist

Troop
3X berzerkers w/ chain swords and axe

3X base rhinos

Lord of war
2X Kytan Ravager

Thoughts?


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I can easily drop one of the Kytans, I just wanted to know if having two at 2000 points is a viable option, or should I put the 514 points towards scoring units like bikes or spawn?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729213.page GMT
But even 3 Rhinos would cost you 210 w/o upgrades, and give you 30 extra wounds that need to be dealt with before they can harm your Zerkers. Just dropping the units down to 10 clears up enough room for that. Then dropping the extra weapons would also help.

So dropping the extra 5 guys from 1 squad and 6 from the other 2 as well as dropping the Chap's upgrades you've cleared up 323 Points, all of which could get you Rhinos with plenty left over. Dropping Skarbrand frees up 703 points total.

With all that extra points you could take 3 Rhino's (210), 2 plan Helbrutes (144) and 2 Mauler Feinds (280) and still have 69 points to play around with. You've added a ton of extra durability and also have saturated the field with targets that will make priority shooting more difficult.

The Zerkers are going to do what they do best, which is throw dice and kill things once they get there. Having the Helbrutes and Maulerfiends will help keep pace with them, and add a extra punch to heavier armored units.

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Is it worth it to drop Kharn if it means another Mauler fiend, and just take a chaos Lord as a third hq? And is it worth it to give the defiler a look?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729277.page GMT ymmv.


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Which stinks because I used to use defiler every single game. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729305.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729305.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/745937/9729324.page GMT