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Stupid.

#notmywarhammer]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777287.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


Yeah, the audio really is off putting. But the animation? Is superb. The scene of the woman with the baby running and the terminators firing? That sense of power and scale. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777316.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
Anyways, I feel like this is the first time space marine combat has been well presented. The look and feel of the terminators, that world eater making his final charge, and that ultramarine defending his planet to the death was incredible.

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The gunfire and what not was fine, but the voices made everyone sound like starscream from transformers.

Either way, it was still BAD A$$ and great animation and would love to see more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777340.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 Galas wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


Yeah, the audio really is off putting. But the animation? Is superb. The scene of the woman with the baby running and the terminators firing? That sense of power and scale.

^This.

Voice acting needs a lot of work, as do the sound affects (but it's fan made so what can you do).
But the actual animation has actually managed to capture just how strong, swift and durable Space Marines and Terminators are despite their bulky armour. The HH is a great setting too, lots of potential for a good story, just hope they don't ruin it with cliche lines like "They will answer for this...".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777385.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777388.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope The audio and dialogue could indeed do with some improvements though. Apart from the "What. is. this. heresy!" bit. That was epic.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777397.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777398.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
I will agree this video is pretty Hollywood-esque in the lines, etc., but I'd watch it. Why not.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777407.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777592.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777592.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777605.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777610.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777613.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
So I showed her this video. Her response?

"Christ almighty they are massive! You weren't lying when you said they are big!" ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777621.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


What class. Talks about the negative instead of the positive. I had bad sounding but it was my speakers. I put the head phones on and it sounded better. So maybe instead of blaming the artist, why not check your system? With the head phones is sounds good enough. Diffidently not atrocious.

I thought it was done really well. Awesome for fan art. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777701.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
Davor wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


What class. Talks about the negative instead of the positive. I had bad sounding but it was my speakers. I put the head phones on and it sounded better. So maybe instead of blaming the artist, why not check your system? With the head phones is sounds good enough. Diffidently not atrocious.

I thought it was done really well. Awesome for fan art.
Oh snap, I keep forgetting that opinions are verboten here, mein apologies herr oberst!!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777736.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777755.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777755.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 BrookM wrote:
Davor wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


What class. Talks about the negative instead of the positive. I had bad sounding but it was my speakers. I put the head phones on and it sounded better. So maybe instead of blaming the artist, why not check your system? With the head phones is sounds good enough. Diffidently not atrocious.

I thought it was done really well. Awesome for fan art.
Oh snap, I keep forgetting that opinions are verboten here, mein apologies herr oberst!!!


Apologies is plural, so it's meine apologies. And Herr Oberst please. Opinions may be allowed, but bad German certainly not!

Well, I like the trailer. Sure, it's not perfect but enjoyable.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777771.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777771.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 Dryaktylus wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Davor wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


What class. Talks about the negative instead of the positive. I had bad sounding but it was my speakers. I put the head phones on and it sounded better. So maybe instead of blaming the artist, why not check your system? With the head phones is sounds good enough. Diffidently not atrocious.

I thought it was done really well. Awesome for fan art.
Oh snap, I keep forgetting that opinions are verboten here, mein apologies herr oberst!!!


Apologies is plural, so it's meine apologies. And Herr Oberst please. Opinions may be allowed, but bad German certainly not!

Well, I like the trailer. Sure, it's not perfect but enjoyable.
Apologies, I shall endeavour to do better next time. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777777.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"

Also, everyone do note that the ENTIRE video, save the voice acting was done by 1 person, over a 12 month period, on his off time while working a full time job. Undoubtedly, it's not perfect and never will be. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777838.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 BrookM wrote:
Davor wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
The audio is atrocious imho.


What class. Talks about the negative instead of the positive. I had bad sounding but it was my speakers. I put the head phones on and it sounded better. So maybe instead of blaming the artist, why not check your system? With the head phones is sounds good enough. Diffidently not atrocious.

I thought it was done really well. Awesome for fan art.
Oh snap, I keep forgetting that opinions are verboten here, mein apologies herr oberst!!!


Sorry I apologize. It didn't come out as I ment. Got distracted and didn't realize ii came out rudely.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777982.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 BrookM wrote:
Shrieking "MY BABY" over and over again is already a cliche line.


And this is bad how?

Also, this looks pretty fething boss to me - closest thing I've seen to non-stupid looking marine movement. Of course the whole thing could use the polish that a production studio could offer but hey, for one dude this is pretty amazing work - gak, it's already better looking than Ultramarines ever was.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777988.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9777995.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
I'd watch the whole thing if it ever becomes a full movie/short film and not just a trailer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778006.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778008.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
It struck me as weirdly appropriate that both the loyalist and heretic marines didn't really give a fig about the lady running with her baby. You don't really think about civilians all that much in the 40K universe. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778076.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778076.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 Togusa wrote:
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"


The entire pretentiousness of trying to scrub 40K of its quintessential comical, ironical and comedically exaggerated soul as a parody of pretentious 80s sci-fi and attempting to play the parody straightfaced as the thing it mocked and ridiculed in the first place.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778156.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
It's the trailer all there is, or is it a prelude to a longer eventual work? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778187.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"


The entire pretentiousness of trying to scrub 40K of its quintessential comical, ironical and comedically exaggerated soul as a parody of pretentious 80s sci-fi and attempting to play the parody straightfaced as the thing it mocked and ridiculed in the first place.


To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Warhammer40k. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of science fiction backhistory most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Horus's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Michael Morcook literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these HH's novels, to realize that they're not just a parody- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Warhammer 40k truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Kharn existencial catchphrase "KILL! MAIM! BURN!," which itself is a cryptic reference to Homero's Greek epic Iliad. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Matt Ward's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778493.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778493.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778496.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778496.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 Galas wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"


The entire pretentiousness of trying to scrub 40K of its quintessential comical, ironical and comedically exaggerated soul as a parody of pretentious 80s sci-fi and attempting to play the parody straightfaced as the thing it mocked and ridiculed in the first place.


To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Warhammer40k. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of science fiction backhistory most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Horus's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Michael Morcook literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these HH's novels, to realize that they're not just a parody- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Warhammer 40k truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Kharn existencial catchphrase "KILL! MAIM! BURN!," which itself is a cryptic reference to Homero's Greek epic Iliad. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Matt Ward's genius unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools... how I pity them.


Galas, that meme was gakky back when it war first introduced with Rick and Morty. It is gakky here still and further dated. Please don't do it ever again.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778504.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
I apologize, I won't sin again with 4chan humour (But to be fair it was originated in reddit)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778507.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778507.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
I cannot help thinking that using the running woman as a constant narrative device would have been better, essentially following her mad dash to safety with the fighting around her, using her as a constant human scale marker to show just how turned up to 11 40k and HH is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778913.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9778913.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
I wouldn’t expect a talented animator working by himself to knock the audio out of the park, it’s not his wheelhouse. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779249.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779249.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779320.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779320.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"


The entire pretentiousness of trying to scrub 40K of its quintessential comical, ironical and comedically exaggerated soul as a parody of pretentious 80s sci-fi and attempting to play the parody straightfaced as the thing it mocked and ridiculed in the first place.


Man, the level of pretentiousness is too damn high.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779783.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 Frankenberry wrote:
Sunny Side Up wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
AdmiralHalsey wrote:
Looks like a more goofy version of 'Space Marine' to me.


I don't see anything goofy about it though, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but what exactly comes off as "goofy?"


The entire pretentiousness of trying to scrub 40K of its quintessential comical, ironical and comedically exaggerated soul as a parody of pretentious 80s sci-fi and attempting to play the parody straightfaced as the thing it mocked and ridiculed in the first place.


Man, the level of pretentiousness is too damn high.


Give this [egg] some punctuation and a cookie! I guess the point is relevant, but I don't see how adapting a fictional universe to a new medium can't involve messing with the tone a little bit. There was next to no narrative in the clip, so that leaves very little room for any character development that would flesh out the tongue-in-cheek elements that [egg] brings up anyway. Or would [egg] rather have seen a fan pour his time and effort into creating a nicely paced narrative scene that might better convey the subtle nuances of the universe's setting?

I think it was just about the horrors of combat as witnessed by faceless, irrelevant insignificants. The focus was on the fighting and the fighting is why I entered this hellscape when I was an oh-so-insightful 12-year-old version of me.

Kickass depiction of superhuman precision regardless of unwieldy and encumbering equipment. Nothing more, nothing less.
Eight stars.



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Over all there's a really good weight conveighed (especially for the termies). I would have liked for the armour to have felt as a bit more durable though and the power armour a tad more clunky, but It's a very good depiction of the fighting in Ultramar during the heresy.

t's a pretty laughable notion that it's pretentious for 30K as a setting to be played more serious than rouge trader in the 80's. Both interpretations have their place (although people will have different favorites) . Like the different depictions and takes on Batman during the decades.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9779908.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
However all of the marines sounded good to me and the background music, while a bit cliche fit very well and honestly I've payed $12+ to hear similar background music in theaters so it's hard to be too critical. The weapon and fighting sound effects were done well and not over done letting you focus on the action without taking away from it.

And the animation was excellent, it really drove home how fast Space Marines are, the action was a bit hard to follow in some places but I think(hope) that was a style choice to really show how fast these super soldiers are just as the missing limbs showed how resilient they are. The Terminators were just awesome, I mean at least for me they really brought home how large, plodding, and powerful they are supposed to be.

Solid A over all, a few audio revisions and it would easily be an A+.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780383.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
 schoon wrote:
Great work for a fan effort (certainly far better than I could pull off)!

It's the trailer all there is, or is it a prelude to a longer eventual work?


Looks to be a trailer for a longer work. When that comes out I have no idea. I just stumbled upon this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780384.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
it's just pretty telling that whoever did the sound didn't even try to read up on how to do it well.
EDIT : upon a few more listens I get the impression that the VA's may have done the recordings themselves and in fairness to the sound lad you can only polish a turd so much.

THAT ALL SAID:

The art, animation and lighting/shaders etc are slick as all hell and deserve props, I am excited to see if this goes anywhere provided they've sorted the sound issues.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9780426.page GMT Re:EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
endlesswaltz123 wrote:
The audio is slices of clips from all over, namely dawn of war games.

I wouldn’t expect a talented animator working by himself to knock the audio out of the park, it’s not his wheelhouse.


This is incorrect - specifically, the Imperial Fist techmarine is voiced by Chapter Master Valrak, or MadMuzza on Dakka - and I'm sure he hasn't been in any DoW games.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781460.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781595.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781595.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781609.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9781609.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9784579.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/748235/9784579.page GMT EPIC Fan Made Trailer: 30k Death of Hope
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