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				<description><![CDATA[   I've been anxiously awaiting the Custodes codex for some time. Now that it is here, I feel a tiny bit of disappointment. While I am very please with what we got, it feels a little barren. Since <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> included the Contemptor and the Land Raider it is obvious that they are more than willing to include kits that were originally meant for other ranges.  So, with that in mind, I was half expecting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> to rebox the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span> Gryph-Hounds from the Stormcast Eternals as a Custodes unit. Something like them are all ready in the fluff of 30k, they are generic enough that they aren't obviously a solely <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span> unit, and (most importantly) they are all ready produced by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.  <br /> <br />   If this was a fast-attack unit for Custodes it would be a good way to fill up the Fast Attack slot, which currently only has one choice. It would also be a good way to have more bodies to the Custodes, and allow them to take on hordes a tiny bit better. I see them as a slightly heavier version of Fenrisian Wolves.<br /> <br /> Here is what I am thinking: <br /> <br /> M10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>Ws</span> 3+  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>Bs</span>-  S4  T4 W2 A3 Ld5 Sv4+         <br /> <br /> 5-10 per squad,  15 points each. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Definitely a viable alternative to the Jetbikes]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wait... are you suggesting a m10 t4, 2w, 4+ model costs 15 points? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(334);'>WTF</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 28 Jan 2018 23:41:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lance845]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, it's basically a Space Wolf cyberwolf, just in a unit. Those are only 15 points.  I guess as a unit it would be more potent. Perhaps 17?  After all Fenrisian Wolves are close to those stats and only 6 points. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 28 Jan 2018 23:46:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So I just looked up the datasheets and point costs. Cyberwolves are indeed that stat line (-1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>) at 15 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(675);'>ppm</span>. Pretty ridiculous. I didn't realize space wolves had such a spamable durable unit with 3a -1ap and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> weapons.<br /> <br /> By comparison, ripper swarms are<br /> 6m/5+/5+/3/3/3/4/4/6+ for 11ppm. with ap0 1dmg weapons.<br /> <br /> at +4 points you gain 4m +2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>ws</span> +1t +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> -1W +2sv and a point of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>ap</span>. <br /> <br /> That doesn't seem right at all. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:07:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lance845]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wow, rippers really seem like junk. Can they at least have easy access to buffs or some kind of fearless? <br /> <br /> Anyway, What do you think for a custodes unit? Too silly? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:10:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Gryph-Hounds for Custodes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Flesh hounds are the same cost (15ppm)<br /> <br /> But instead of +1atk  and the 4+ save. They instead get:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> 7,5++, deny 1 power<br /> <br /> Soo... yeaa.. i would say that sounds about right<br /> <br /> edit: Forgot they got their khorne power (+1atk & <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> when charging, charged, intervene)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:12:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ When it comes to Gryph Hounds in these proposed rules, I think they should never be able to claim objectives, nor use a majority of the other custodes rules. <br /> <br /> While the Jetbikes are good, I could see using a unit like this to try to swamp an enemy horde blob with a bunch of spammable attacks. At 15 points per model they aren't exactly cheap, but compared to a 49 point Custode they are. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jan 2018 00:29:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cuda1179]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Speaking as someone who has a ton of experience with Gryph-Hounds in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span>...they're not meant to be used as a 'swarm' unit.<br /> <br /> The basic Gryph-Hound in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span>? <br /> It's <b>40 points</b> per Gryph-Hound. They start at units of 1 and get up to 12.<br /> <br /> I would sincerely just take the stat-lines and the rules from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(694);'>AoS</span> and port them over. A unit that can engage and fade out, nipping at the heels(so to speak) of a unit in advance of a Custodes strike and granting them an early warning ability to deep striking units would be huge.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jan 2018 16:37:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kanluwen]]></author>
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