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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm looking for feedback on my Custodes / Blood Angels / Astra Militarum list. The basic premise is the Guard + Scouts hold objectives while the Custodes and Blood Angel Captains do the killing.<br /> <br /> Custodes battalion:<br /> 2 Shield-Captains on Dawneagle Jetbikes - 320<br /> 8 Custodian Guard - 6 w/ Spears, 2 w/ Blades / Shields - 430<br /> 2x3 Custodian Guard - 3 w/ Spears - 312<br /> 3 Vertus Praetors - 270<br /> <br /> Blood Angels battalion:<br /> Armoury of Baal: 2 additional Relics of Baal, -3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span><br /> Captain - Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Jump Pack, The Angel's Wing - 129<br /> Captain - Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Jump Pack, The Veritas Vitae - 129<br /> 3x5 Scouts w/ Boltguns - 165<br /> <br /> Cadian battalion:<br /> Company Commander - Grand Strategist - 30<br /> Company Commander - Kurov's Aquila - 30<br /> 3x10 Infantry Squad - Lascannon - 180<br /> <br /> Total - 1995, 12 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CPs</span> (before spending points on relics / pre-game stratagem)<br /> <br /> Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Mar 2018 19:23:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wolf 11x]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't like the big unit of 8 custodian guard.<br /> <br /> go 3x3 guard and then use the extra points to add lemartes to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> battalion, more bikes or another shield captain on a bike?<br /> <br /> Not sure how valuable that second relic is on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> capt. I'd rather see a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> with the 3+ re-roll charge bike.<br /> <br /> I like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> scouts and like to do 2x with boltguns and 2x with pistols + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Thinning out that big 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(597);'>CG</span> unit will give you the points to do that with and objectives/screens seem to work better for me with 4 squads than 3.<br /> <br /> I'm guessing the second Aquila is a typo (in the cadian battalion). Just a thought exercise why Cadian instead of one of the others?<br /> <br /> Looks like a really good list though. I'd playtest it and then try one with a smaller <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(597);'>CG</span> unit with the above changes and see how it works out.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Mar 2018 20:00:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bananathug]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just a second - with grand strategist and the veritas vitae does that give you TWO rolls at getting a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> back each time you spend one?<br /> <br /> Crazy]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:34:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DoomMouse]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are those 8 todes deepstriking? If they are you should consider a terminator shield captain to go with them on the drop. If not I’d rather have more bikes than footslogging todes. I’ve noticed that honestly the squads of 3 go more unnoticed. But the large drop teams from 9” away have incredible survivability and put out an insane amount of hurt especially with a re-roll 1’s giving them close to 100% hit rate]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:49:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ cult_of_the_void_dragon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not really seeing what you could achieve with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>. You've got anti-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> stuff with the Scouts, but you could get more out of it by dropping them, getting a couple more Jetbike Captains and getting the -1 to hit Vexilla to protect your Custodes a bit longer. Additionally, even though you've got the Custodes killing stuff, you'll need more than a couple of Infantry Squads to hold objectives. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Mar 2018 23:20:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Valkyrie]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>bananathug wrote:</cite>I don't like the big unit of 8 custodian guard.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's personal preference and something I'm looking forward to trying!<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>go 3x3 guard and then use the extra points to add lemartes to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> battalion, more bikes or another shield captain on a bike?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I have the Dawneagle Jetbikes to do this and it's definitely a variant on the list I'll be trying.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Not sure how valuable that second relic is on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> capt. I'd rather see a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(382);'>SC</span> with the 3+ re-roll charge bike.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> We'll have to see! I think both are really good and could even see paying the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> for the bike as well.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> scouts and like to do 2x with boltguns and 2x with pistols + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span>. Thinning out that big 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(597);'>CG</span> unit will give you the points to do that with and objectives/screens seem to work better for me with 4 squads than 3.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'll give this a try at some point, but my main intent for the Scouts is to hold down objectives so that the Custodes don't have to do so themselves. <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I'm guessing the second Aquila is a typo (in the cadian battalion). Just a thought exercise why Cadian instead of one of the others?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Fixed! It's really as simple as I enjoy Kronos with Nids and don't intend to move the Cadians much, so I want their Lascannons to hit as often as possible.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>DoomMouse wrote:</cite>Just a second - with grand strategist and the veritas vitae does that give you TWO rolls at getting a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> back each time you spend one?<br /> <br /> Crazy</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I want to higlight that Grand Strategist works on each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> spent and Veritas Vitae is per stratagem spent, so they are different. A couple examples: if I'm doing a 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> stratagem, I get two chances on a 5+ to gain more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span>. If I do a 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> stratagem, I get three chances (2+1).<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>cult_of_the_void_dragon wrote:</cite>Are those 8 todes deepstriking? If they are you should consider a terminator shield captain to go with them on the drop. If not I’d rather have more bikes than footslogging todes. I’ve noticed that honestly the squads of 3 go more unnoticed. But the large drop teams from 9” away have incredible survivability and put out an insane amount of hurt especially with a re-roll 1’s giving them close to 100% hit rate</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I should have clarified in my original post that my intent is to deep strike the 8-man squad. I figure I can get an easily get a Bike Captain within 6" of them as needed. I'll keep an eye on this though. <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Valkyrie wrote:</cite>I'm not really seeing what you could achieve with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>. You've got anti-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> stuff with the Scouts, but you could get more out of it by dropping them, getting a couple more Jetbike Captains and getting the -1 to hit Vexilla to protect your Custodes a bit longer. Additionally, even though you've got the Custodes killing stuff, you'll need more than a couple of Infantry Squads to hold objectives. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> list provides the two Captains, who're awesome and enable shenanigans I can't do with Custodes, and the Scouts, who act as Deep Strike deterrents while keeping a nice area for my own 8-man Custodian unit to deep strike. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CPs</span> don't hurt either. The Scouts / Cadians are meant to stay on objectives, while Shield Captains, Custodians, Jetbikes, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> Captains are free to engage the enemy. I definitely don't want to be leaving 3-man 152 point Custodian Guard squads on objectives if I can help it. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Mar 2018 14:44:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wolf 11x]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It's a pretty neat idea - I'd not thought about combining the two... 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> to unlock it s a pretty hefty price tag though. You'd have to use 6 stratagems while the bearer is on the table and alive to get your investment back. Not sure how often that would happen with a captain who will want to be charging the enemy!]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ DoomMouse]]></author>
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