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				<title>[2000] - Black Templars - Chainswords without vehicles!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi, i know that black templar are not the strongest army <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>, but you know, they look great <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> I would like to ask you if this is possible or if i would get ownd by any other competetive army.<br /> <br /> my plan was to go full melee, but the firepower comes from the flyer (also their transport)<br /> <br /> <br /> ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Black Templar) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> <u><b>High Marshal Helbrecht (170)<br /> The Emperor’s Champion (70)</b></u><br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> <b><u>2x<br /> Crusader Squad: (each 7):</u></b><br /> 6 Initiates:<br /> -4x Chainsword + Pistol<br /> -1x Flamer<br /> -1x Power Fist<br /> Sword Brother:<br /> -Lightning Claws (Pair)<br /> <br /> <b><u>1x<br /> Crusader Squad: (each 7):</u></b><br /> 6 Initiates:<br /> -4x Chainsword + Pistol<br /> -1x Plasma Gun<br /> -1x Power Fist<br /> Sword Brother:<br /> -Lightning Claws (Pair)<br /> <br /> <br /> ++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Black Templar) ++<br /> <br /> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> +<br /> <br /> <u><b>Chaplain Grimaldus + Cernobites (126)</b></u><br /> <br /> + Troops +<br /> <br /> <b><u>3x<br /> Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (each 5):</u></b><br /> 3 Veterans with Power Axe + Storm Shield<br /> 1 Veteran with Thunder hammer + Storm Shield<br /> 1 Veteran Seargent with Relic Blade + Storm Shield<br /> <br /> <br /> ++ Air Wing Detachment +0CP (Black Templar) ++<br /> <br /> + Flyer +<br /> <br /> <u><b>3x Stormraven Gunship with each:</b></u><br /> Twin Heavy Plasma Cannons<br /> Twin Heavy Bolters<br /> Stormstrike Missile Launcher<br /> Two Hurricane Bolters<br /> <br /> <br /> ++ Total: [1999pts] ++<br /> <br /> my plan was to load every infantery in the flyer. if its not my first turn, i try to split up these three flyers and then in my turn fly to the front shooting at targets which can be dangerous to my flyer and disembark in the 2nd round all infantery into they enemy + deep strike my veterans? is this even possible ?]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ g0tt]]></author>
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				<title>[2000] - Black Templars - Chainswords without vehicles!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If I understand the rules correctly then flyers do not count as technically being on the board. Of you only deploy flyers during deployment you are technically tabling yourself. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Mar 2018 15:52:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dwro1234]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[2000] - Black Templars - Chainswords without vehicles!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'd take a look at company veterans, they have a base squad size of two, that includes a 3 attack sergeant, give one a plasma gun and a chainsword, the sergeant a storm bolter and power fist, do that three times for an easy vanguard detachment, 6 models total, 3 plasma guns, 3 chainswords, 3 storm bolters, 3 power fists on 3 attack base sergeants, put all 6 in a twin assault cannon razorback and you have an extremely efficient, extremely killy unit, that can go out and literally go after any target.<br /> <br /> I think stormravens are a bit on the expensive side now, with there point increase, fielding more than one is inadvisable <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>imho</span>. However if you field one, you can use my company veteran tactic as well, swapping the plasma for melta. However, what i really like to do, and it's especially fluffy with black Templars, is combine them with an outrider detachment of sisters, take celestine as your warlord and bring some seraphim as a bodyguard, go hand flamers with them for anti horde, then take two five man dominion squads, 3 melta guns each, put both squads in a sororitas repressor from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span>, it has twin heavy flamer and 6 firing points. Dominions can double move on turn 1 and this ability extends to the transport. Now you'll have six <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> 3 melta guns, in range turn 1, firing safely from inside the transport. Plus a very fluffy force with the three named <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> characters in it plus celestine, the emperor's finest!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Here's a draft of kinda what I'm talking about. I wrote this list a while back, I think it's fluffy while also being actually pretty good. I mean the list is putting out 30 strength 10 powerfist attacks a turn, re rolling hits and generating extra attacks on 6's. 10 plasma guns, 6 melta guns, 14 storm bolters, 5 twin assault cannons, and that doesn't include the characters load outs. The entire list is protected by vehicles and and thus can be all over the board quickly if it needs to be, and is only 8 drops total for a usual +1 to go first. <br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Double Vanguard & Outrider Detachments 6CP</b><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> – High Marshal Helbrecht <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> – The Emperor’s Champion <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Transport – Razorback w/ Twin Assault Cannon, Hunter-Killer Missile & Storm Bolter <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> – Chaplain Grimaldus <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist<br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist<br /> Transport – Razorback w/ Twin Assault Cannon, Hunter-Killer Missile & Storm Bolter <br /> <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist<br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Transport – Razorback w/ Twin Assault Cannon & Storm Bolter <br /> <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Elites – 2x Company Veterans w/ Plasma Gun, Storm Bolter, Chainsword & Power Fist <br /> Transport – Razorback w/ Twin Assault Cannon & Storm Bolter<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> – Saint Celestine<br /> Fast Attack – 5x Seraphim Squad w/ 4x Hand Flamers<br /> <br /> Fast Attack – 5x Dominion Squad w/ 3x Melta Guns <br /> Fast Attack – 5x Dominion Squad w/ 3x Melta Guns<br /> Transport – Sororitas Repressor w/ 2x Heavy Flamers, Storm Bolter & Dozer Ram <br /> ]]></description>
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