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[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

Holpo — GMT

++Battalion Detachment +3CP++
(785pts, 43PL)

+No Force Org+

Craftworld: Attribute
Alaitoc:Fieldcraft

-The Path of war

+HQ+

}Farseer
-Guide and Fortune
(100pts)

}Spiritseer
-conceal/reveal
(45pts)

+troops+

}Rangers
(60pts)

}Rangers
(60pts)

}Rangers
(60pts)

}Rangers
(60pts)

+Elites+

}Wraithgaurd squad (10 models)
-wraithcannon
(400pts)

++Spearhead Detachment +1CP++
(210pts, 12PL)

+No Force Org+

-The Path of war

Craftworld: Attribute
Alaitoc:Fieldcraft

+HQ+

}Spiritseer
-conceal/reveal
(45pts)

+Heavy support+

}Support Weapon
-Shadow weaver
(55pts)

}Support Weapon
-Shadow weaver
(55pts)

}Support Weapon
-Shadow weaver
(55pts)

total: (995pts, 55PL) starting with 7CP.

I was thinking of putting the 10 man wraith squad into the webway. Then they can deploy next to an
enemy and shoot everything at them, maybe after use the fire and fade so that I could move away
and gain the buff of -1 to hit. I would also use the stratagem Lightening fast reactions and get -2 to
hit from shooting attacks. maybe use forwarned later on, with extra CP points maybe re-rolls etc.

The Wraith would try focus on enemy vehicles/large creaters, the rangers would focus on objectives
and relic and the support weapons would focus on all enemy infantry whilst hiding behind terrain etc.
With the psyker's focusing on concealing the rangers, maybe wraith or themselves. If relic i would
spawn a ranger squad next to it and take it, if not i would capture objectives etc.

Any suggestions or criticisms would be very helpful!
Thank you in adavnce.

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

jjb070707 — GMT

I don't really like 10 cannon wraithguard at 1000 points. Yes, you can deepstrike in and blow something up, but it doesn't synergize with Alataioc, it puts 40% of your army in one basket, weak to psychic powers, bombs, melee, and retaliation due to range. It's also basically your only threat at 1000 points, and 10 psuedo melta shots due to the short range don't really win games. But if it's been working for you I guess go with it? I just feel like with minimal effort most opponents would pick that list apart after it shoots once.

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

Holpo — GMT

The thing is im not to sure what else to have instead of those 10 wraith, because with the strategems my wraith have -2 to hit them and would be able to move 7 inches after shooting.

should i maybe exchange them for say two fire prisms and another rangers squad?

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

ratgnaw — GMT

First off always max out your pts when possible, get that farseer a spear, also at 1000 pts you will probably see more infantry than armour. Next, 2 conceal powers are a waste, you can only cast a power once per turn, give one of your spiritseers quicken/restrain and shiftshroud of alanssair (opponents get -1 to hit the bearer and he can deepstrike in at the end of your first movement phase) this is the spiritseer that should be with your waithguard as they are slow (with quicken going off and your fire and fade stratagem they could move17" throughout your turn.+d6 if you advanced in movement) with that being said I would drop 5 wraithguard, 2 support weapons and a unit of rangers.
Add an Autarch (77 pts) make him your warlord for a chance at getting command points back on a 6, and re-roles of 1 for all friendly units within 6" put him by your 4 dark reapers (exarch w/ tempest) (113pts) and your fire prism (160pts) that should fill out your spearhead detachment and you should have 20 pts leftover for upgrades on your FP and weapon for Autarch. Also look at the role you want your farseer to play. With small amount of fire from ranger units, autarch, and spiritseers giving re-rolls, you may want to swap out guide for doom as the buff will help all units firing at that target. And maybe swap out fortune for executioner ( last game I played, I dropped 6 blood angels that were getting a little too close for comfort.)
On a side note the unit I like right now is shadow spectres, their armour gives them -1 to hit, with conceal and being Alaitoc they will be -3 to hit (outside of 12") their weapons can either fire at 18" with each hit getting a chance to hit again ( max 3) str 6 at ap-3 or 8" range d6 str5 at ap-1 auto hit to help against getting charged. But they are pricey pts wise.

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Also I just re-read lightning-fast reactions and it can only target units with the FLY keyword and it doesn't look like your current list has any units with fly. However if you do add the fire prism it has fly

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

Holpo — GMT

ratgnaw wrote:
First off always max out your pts when possible, get that farseer a spear, also at 1000 pts you will probably see more infantry than armour. Next, 2 conceal powers are a waste, you can only cast a power once per turn, give one of your spiritseers quicken/restrain and shiftshroud of alanssair (opponents get -1 to hit the bearer and he can deepstrike in at the end of your first movement phase) this is the spiritseer that should be with your waithguard as they are slow (with quicken going off and your fire and fade stratagem they could move17" throughout your turn.+d6 if you advanced in movement) with that being said I would drop 5 wraithguard, 2 support weapons and a unit of rangers.
Add an Autarch (77 pts) make him your warlord for a chance at getting command points back on a 6, and re-roles of 1 for all friendly units within 6" put him by your 4 dark reapers (exarch w/ tempest) (113pts) and your fire prism (160pts) that should fill out your spearhead detachment and you should have 20 pts leftover for upgrades on your FP and weapon for Autarch. Also look at the role you want your farseer to play. With small amount of fire from ranger units, autarch, and spiritseers giving re-rolls, you may want to swap out guide for doom as the buff will help all units firing at that target. And maybe swap out fortune for executioner ( last game I played, I dropped 6 blood angels that were getting a little too close for comfort.)
On a side note the unit I like right now is shadow spectres, their armour gives them -1 to hit, with conceal and being Alaitoc they will be -3 to hit (outside of 12") their weapons can either fire at 18" with each hit getting a chance to hit again ( max 3) str 6 at ap-3 or 8" range d6 str5 at ap-1 auto hit to help against getting charged. But they are pricey pts wise.

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Also I just re-read lightning-fast reactions and it can only target units with the FLY keyword and it doesn't look like your current list has any units with fly. However if you do add the fire prism it has fly

TY I have changed my list now and yep the Dark reapers !!! Also i did not think of the spiritseer with shift shroud, great thanks!

I could swap out the last support weapon and have two squads of dark reapers and the fire prism which i think is much better tbh.

I checked again and I'm pretty sure the Lightning-fast reactions work for infantry units too.
I have also checked online https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Eldar(8E)#Universal_2
and it states also infantry units.
Lightning Fast Reactions (2 CP): Used when a friendly Infantry unit or a friendly unit that has keyword is targeted by a ranged of melee weapon.
I was gonna use it on the wraith to try make them tougher as chances are they'll be getting shot by everything.

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

ratgnaw — GMT

You are correct with the lightning- fast reactions, looks like I will be using this stratagem a lot more!

[1000] - Eldar Alaitoc - Need help and criticism!

Holpo — GMT

ratgnaw wrote:
You are correct with the lightning- fast reactions, looks like I will be using this stratagem a lot more!

Yeah you better xD especially if you want to deter enemy units form shooting at a wraith squad xD