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				<title>Soup nerfs proposal</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Despite claims I cannot for the life of me see how soup lists aside from the obscure oversight lists (inquisitors, ministorum etc...) have been heavily hampered at all. Most soup lists i've seen tend to already make full detachments from one particular faction and with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> buff for batallion/brigades soup lists will still be effective as you can get board control and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> for few points to make up for an elite armies shortcomings.<br /> <br /> Below is my proposed method of making soup less dominating<br /> <br /> Make it so that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> generated by detachments can only be used by other detachments that have the same faction keyword (right down to the different codex factions)<br /> <br /> Fig. 1<br /> <br /> <br /> 3 freebees<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> Brigade +12CP<br /> <br /> Ultramarines Supreme command +1CP<br /> <br /> Raven Guard Vanguard +1CP <br /> <br /> In this instance the freebees can be used by any detachment but the additional <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> for each detachment can only be used by units in that detachment. If 2 detachments share a codex but have different faction names (Raven guard vs Ultramarines) then when using a strategem you must target a unit from the same detachment that the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> is generated from. For the general strategems you must use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>CP</span> from the detachment you want the strategem to affect. In this example the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> has 12 + 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span>, the Ultramarines have 1 +3 and the raven guard have 1 +3<br /> <br /> <br /> Fig.2<br /> <br /> <br /> 3cp freebees<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> Cadia brigade +12cp<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> Cadia Battalion +5cp<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(682);'>AM</span> Steel Legion Spearhead.+1cp<br /> <br /> <br /> In this example because the brigade and batallion are both Cadian the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> can be used interchangably between the detachments so any Cadia unit can use 17 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> for strategems.<br /> <br /> For units that allow regaining command points the regained command points are allocated to the faction that the unit/strategem with the ability. For example if my warlord from Fig.2 has Kirovs aquilia and is in the Spearhead detachment any command points he recovers can only be used by the steel legion batallion.<br /> <br /> If a strategem from a codex can target a unit not within that codex (e.g daemon codex soul sacrifice on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> character) then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> must come from the targeted unit detachment. (in this case <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> detachment that has said character)<br /> <br /> if a strategem targets an enemy unit (e.g steel mind iron logic) then the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(707);'>cp</span> can be taken from any detachment that has the appropriate keywords to use the strategem.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Apr 2018 17:34:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ operkoi]]></author>
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				<title>Soup nerfs proposal</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea, but it adds a lot of book keeping.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:59:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kriswall]]></author>
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