<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Using Citadel Base as a Layer?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Using Citadel Base as a Layer? CSMs Rotting Flesh from the Citadel app. I already put Druchii Violet over Rakarth Flesh and can get Carroburg Crimson but after that, It wants me to go back to Rakarth.

Has anyone actually used base paint as a layer?

If yes, how can it be done?

Is it a better idea to use Dry Wrack White instead?

Any advice would be appreciated.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016582.page GMT Using Citadel Base as a Layer? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016598.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016598.page GMT Using Citadel Base as a Layer? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016616.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016616.page GMT Re:Using Citadel Base as a Layer? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016641.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016641.page GMT Re:Using Citadel Base as a Layer?
 parakuribo wrote:
Ask a stupid question....thanks, but one more question. What should the ratio be for water:12ml of paint. I may get another pot to make the layer paint.

Don't put the water straight into the pot. Might sound dumb but I tried that and it just makes a soupy mess.

I do 2 brushloads of paint to 1 of water.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016644.page GMT Using Citadel Base as a Layer?
Paint thinning is subjective, but most people aim for the consistency of milk. Dont add too much otherwise you can flood the model with paint when you apply it.

If i were you i wouldnt waste money on a new pot. A couple of brush loads of the base paint on a wet pallete with a litle bit of water will go a long long way as a layer paint, and will stay moist and useable for a long time if kept covered.

If you are unsure about paint thinning, youtube is your friend. Watch Duncans Warhammer world tutorials as well as he covers so many of the techniques you will want to use.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016685.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016685.page GMT Re:Using Citadel Base as a Layer? GW's naming conventions for paint (Edge, technical, Base, Layer, etc. etc.) is all marketing. There is nothing special about a Base vs Layer paint that you can't achieve with some other paint line. You could use GW's Edge paint as a base layer if you wanted to. You could highlight something with a GW Base color. GW just likes to make a novice painter feel less intimidated or frustrated by providing a recipe for painting, and there is nothing wrong with that.

GW's 12 Step Paint Recipe
1. Assemble model
2. Undercoat model with GW Spray Color of your choice
3. Base coat the model using a color from the Base color range
4. Add more color using layers from the Layer range
5. Dry brush the model using Dry Brush paints
6. Use a Glaze to recover some color from the dry brush
7. Shade the model using GW shades
8. High light the model using GW Edge paints
9. Use Technical paints for "special effects" like gems or lenses
10. Use GW Texture for bases
11. Add GW decals
12. Seal with GW 'Ardcoat (do they even make that stuff anymore? They have a paint version, but do they still make the spray version?)

If you never painted anything in your life, you could follow that 12 step process for anything and it would work. Of course, there is a lot more to it, and there is practice, plus using the right paint brush, etc. etc. However, this is a brilliant marketing move to get inexperienced players into painting, and it works! Eventually, you realize it's just a recipe, and like all recipes, it can be changed. That's when the real fun begins! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016808.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10016808.page GMT Re:Using Citadel Base as a Layer?
 Tamwulf wrote:
There is nothing special about a Base vs Layer paint that you can't achieve with some other paint line.


This is not entirely true. There is a difference in pigment levels, so the paints aren't going to behave exactly the same way. Using a layer paint as the base coat may require more coats to get good coverage, and using a base paint for shading/highlighting may require you to dilute it more to keep it from overpowering the other colors. You can use them for different purposes, but you should understand that it may not be ideal and may require some different techniques.


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 parakuribo wrote:
Is it a better idea to use Dry Wrack White instead?


No. GW's dry paints are trash and a waste of money. It's just a marketing gimmick, you can get the same result by drybrushing conventional paints without having to spend money on special paints for it that are utterly useless for anything else and not even very good for drybrushing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10017596.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10017596.page GMT Re:Using Citadel Base as a Layer?
 Peregrine wrote:
 Tamwulf wrote:
There is nothing special about a Base vs Layer paint that you can't achieve with some other paint line.


This is not entirely true. There is a difference in pigment levels, so the paints aren't going to behave exactly the same way. Using a layer paint as the base coat may require more coats to get good coverage, and using a base paint for shading/highlighting may require you to dilute it more to keep it from overpowering the other colors. You can use them for different purposes, but you should understand that it may not be ideal and may require some different techniques.


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 parakuribo wrote:
Is it a better idea to use Dry Wrack White instead?


No. GW's dry paints are trash and a waste of money. It's just a marketing gimmick, you can get the same result by drybrushing conventional paints without having to spend money on special paints for it that are utterly useless for anything else and not even very good for drybrushing.


This. The Citadel dry line is one of the most pointless in the range and I'm a fan of it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10017897.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/758421/10017897.page GMT