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Do most people base them or not?

They will stand up perfectly fine without, although I'm not 100% sure rules wise whether they are supposed to have a base.

Cheers.

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A Space Marine Dreadnought should be on a 60mm base. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160641.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160641.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts? But, with the vehicle/base issue some people have, it gets murky.

But yeah, SM Dreads (and most others) should have a 60mm round base.
Some versions don't give you a choice, and the feet are part of the base.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160648.page GMT Re:Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
The rules shouldn't bother you too much. As seen above some people mind, but there are models in the game that don't use bases (vehicles, which a Dreadnought happens to be) and the rules have you covered if you decide to go without a base.

I for one was happy when GW introduced 60mm round bases and immediately put my baseless Dreadnoughts on them. It's a better experience in my opinion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160733.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10160746.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
BUDFORCE wrote:
Basically as per the title.

Do most people base them or not?

They will stand up perfectly fine without, although I'm not 100% sure rules wise whether they are supposed to have a base.

Cheers.



Yes, besides the reasons other members have posted to do with the rules, basing your Dreadnaught will greatly reduce the chance of it falling over and possibly damaging your fine paint job.

Cheers,

CB]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161540.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161601.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
BUDFORCE wrote:
Thanks all! I shall purchase some bases.


GW themselves still sell the 60mm bases. They're super cheap. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161628.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161628.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10161696.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
 Grimtuff wrote:
BUDFORCE wrote:
Thanks all! I shall purchase some bases.


GW themselves still sell the 60mm bases. They're super cheap.

Or better yet get MDF ones. Then it's even cheaper]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10162554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10162554.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
ValentineGames wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
BUDFORCE wrote:
Thanks all! I shall purchase some bases.


GW themselves still sell the 60mm bases. They're super cheap.

Or better yet get MDF ones. Then it's even cheaper


£1 a base is not cheap? That has also got sculpted detail on it? Okay.

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But back on topic the new plastic dread really should be on a base, the feet could also get damaged when moving ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163450.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
In this day and age everything should have a base. The old metal dreads never had bases but I feel plastic are much more likely to fall over. Plus from an aesthetic point of view a base looks much better.



Agreed. If you want diorama models that's fine, but if you are using them as game pieces you should treat them as such and have a base on ever model. I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else should have a base, no exceptions. If Imperial Knights and Wraightknights can have a base, so too will everything from Soul Grinders to Dreadnoughts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163497.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
 Deadshot wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
In this day and age everything should have a base. The old metal dreads never had bases but I feel plastic are much more likely to fall over. Plus from an aesthetic point of view a base looks much better.



Agreed. If you want diorama models that's fine, but if you are using them as game pieces you should treat them as such and have a base on ever model. I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else should have a base, no exceptions. If Imperial Knights and Wraightknights can have a base, so too will everything from Soul Grinders to Dreadnoughts.


This is very true.

Bases offer no ambiguity to how far a aura or ability extends. Baseless models unfortunately are very easy to 'game' in this regard, especially for assaulting them. Many an argument I've had to resolve in our FLGS when someone's Triarch stalker or defiler was charged and they would ALWAYS try to make it a few inches longer.

For the interest of civility and just common sense, buy/make a base for odd shaped models, as it will save so much arse ache you wouldn't believe... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163527.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
 Deadshot wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
In this day and age everything should have a base. The old metal dreads never had bases but I feel plastic are much more likely to fall over. Plus from an aesthetic point of view a base looks much better.



Agreed. If you want diorama models that's fine, but if you are using them as game pieces you should treat them as such and have a base on ever model. I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else should have a base, no exceptions. If Imperial Knights and Wraightknights can have a base, so too will everything from Soul Grinders to Dreadnoughts.


Rhino? Predator? Ork trukk? Ork battlewagon?

Like hell. Will result in weird base sizes with tons of empty space on sides making impractical in terrain(suddenly battlewagon can't drive along road when base bumps. And it's instant nerf for your vehicles for added fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163563.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
tneva82 wrote:
 Deadshot wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
In this day and age everything should have a base. The old metal dreads never had bases but I feel plastic are much more likely to fall over. Plus from an aesthetic point of view a base looks much better.



Agreed. If you want diorama models that's fine, but if you are using them as game pieces you should treat them as such and have a base on ever model. I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else should have a base, no exceptions. If Imperial Knights and Wraightknights can have a base, so too will everything from Soul Grinders to Dreadnoughts.


Rhino? Predator? Ork trukk? Ork battlewagon?

Like hell. Will result in weird base sizes with tons of empty space on sides making impractical in terrain(suddenly battlewagon can't drive along road when base bumps. And it's instant nerf for your vehicles for added fun.


 Deadshot wrote:
I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else
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But anyway GW has already sorted out do you need to base or not. Check if model comes with base. If yes base, if not no need nor should you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163619.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
tneva82 wrote:
So that leaves out trukk(hardly large...) or rhino etc. If you give excuse to trukks and rhino's then specifying "larger tracked vehicles" is not neccessary as tracked vehicle is enough.

But anyway GW has already sorted out do you need to base or not. Check if model comes with base. If yes base, if not no need nor should you.


You are nitpicking. A Rhino is a tracked vehicle and a both are larger models. An example I would take as a smaller vehicle would be the old Warbuggies, Land Speeders, Piranha. Obviously the last 2 are hover vehicles but the Warbuggy is a good example, at least in its older model, not sure about the new one.

Non-tracked models like Defilers should always have a base but do not come with it yet. If a Knight has a base, a Defiler can have one too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10163914.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
tneva82 wrote:
 Deadshot wrote:
 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
In this day and age everything should have a base. The old metal dreads never had bases but I feel plastic are much more likely to fall over. Plus from an aesthetic point of view a base looks much better.



Agreed. If you want diorama models that's fine, but if you are using them as game pieces you should treat them as such and have a base on ever model. I'll relent on larger tracked vehicles like Land Raiders or particularly odd ones like Drop Pods. But everything else should have a base, no exceptions. If Imperial Knights and Wraightknights can have a base, so too will everything from Soul Grinders to Dreadnoughts.


Rhino? Predator? Ork trukk? Ork battlewagon?

Like hell. Will result in weird base sizes with tons of empty space on sides making impractical in terrain(suddenly battlewagon can't drive along road when base bumps. And it's instant nerf for your vehicles for added fun.


Why? Is wobbly model syndrome not a thing any more?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10164046.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10164046.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10164075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10164075.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
60mm bases are large enough to have some good storytelling elements in there. Barbed wire, bullet casings, dead foes etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10165254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10165254.page GMT Do you guys generally base SM dreadnaughts?
 Grimtuff wrote:
ValentineGames wrote:
 Grimtuff wrote:
BUDFORCE wrote:
Thanks all! I shall purchase some bases.


GW themselves still sell the 60mm bases. They're super cheap.

Or better yet get MDF ones. Then it's even cheaper


£1 a base is not cheap? That has also got sculpted detail on it? Okay.


6 bases £1.20
Bag of bird cage sand £1
There you go. It has detail sculpted in now
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Inregards to cheapness. It depends on your basing theme. For 40k, All my armies are larva. I have always bought GW bases (if need to) and with all my 40k armies I then bought cork board (like 1m x1m, is a mega tonne of bases worth) and pva glued it on in fragments. Then Chaos black, brush most eschen grey, dry brush dawn stone, Null oil the edges. In the recesses/gaps wet blend Evil sun to troll slayer to yriel to yriel with white scar all = instant awesome larva bases (is super quick in lots). An easier one is glue small gravel on base (eschen grey than dry brush dawn stone and add in some static grass).

My extra edit/bonus tip

I see a lot of people, when I rarely do pick ups, with either the models painted and the base not done or they have off spray on their bases etc. Models on mass look good if all the bases look uniform, not the opposite. If you have 10 awesome painted models out of 40 and all the bases are crap, the entire army looks crap. However, if you have all the bases looking good and only have basic painting on the models (no hightlights etc) they still looks ok.

I would suggest doing the bases first for an entire army and doing the models second.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10167618.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/764178/10167618.page GMT