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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Now that it’s 0 points, is the Hot-Shot Laspistol worth it on Tempestors? Half the range, more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, no cost, less strength? Or, 4 strength, double the range, no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, and costs a point?]]></description>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ For myself, Plasma Pistols are dirt cheap and awesome... so I would always say take the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span> instead. Good to pop a Grunt, or put a dent in something more valuable.]]></description>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Plasma is cheap and good. You pay less than half the cost of a plasma gun, yet get half the fire power. However, I can see the hot shot being worth it with the drop formation, mainly because it can actually get within range to fire. I would still go with plasma though, it is too good. Also, with the drop formation warlord trait, you get +1 to hit. So you don't even have to worry about overheat.<br /> <br /> For general use, the pistol allows you to shoot on 9" drops. If literally all you care about is the special weapons, then going with the cheap option works. Still, plasma pistol would be better.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:54:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Trickstick]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I used the hslp before <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(18);'>CA</span>, I will certainly continue after. On a squad that is going to die regardless (I run a few 5 man suicide squads) the difference is negligible. <br /> <br /> Plasma pistol is an interesting answer though. Depends on how much you want to spend on your squad]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:41:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fisheyes]]></author>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/768069/10265047.page"><b>Fisheyes wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I used the hslp before <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(18);'>CA</span>, I will certainly continue after. On a squad that is going to die regardless (I run a few 5 man suicide squads) the difference is negligible. <br /> <br /> Plasma pistol is an interesting answer though. Depends on how much you want to spend on your squad</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The way I see it, if your 5 man squad could take 3 special weapons, you wouldn't take only two of them. A plasma pistol at 5 pts is half as effective as a plasma gun at  11. You don't get the doctrine shot for half range however, unless you use the new drop formation. So a sergeant is pretty much half a special weapon slot, which you can fill with half a plasma gun for half the cost of one. If you are going for a plasma drop squad it is a great choice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 01:55:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Trickstick]]></author>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9f39b7beeabc67999ed8fcd8303512fe.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/768069/10264463.page"><b>Trickstick wrote:</b></a><br/>Plasma is cheap and good. You pay less than half the cost of a plasma gun, yet get half the fire power. However, I can see the hot shot being worth it with the drop formation, mainly because it can actually get within range to fire. I would still go with plasma though, it is too good. Also, with the drop formation warlord trait, you get +1 to hit. So you don't even have to worry about overheat.<br /> <br /> For general use, the pistol allows you to shoot on 9" drops. If literally all you care about is the special weapons, then going with the cheap option works. Still, plasma pistol would be better.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I believe that +1 doesn't matter, it's a natural 1 and would still explode. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:15:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Togusa]]></author>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/69b339c9a4de237596b025d35c52f93a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/768069/10264427.page"><b>Apple Peel wrote:</b></a><br/>Now that it’s 0 points, is the Hot-Shot Laspistol worth it on Tempestors? Half the range, more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, no cost, less strength? Or, 4 strength, double the range, no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, and costs a point?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Keep in mind that the extra range of the bolt pistol will allow to shoot it on the turn you deep strike a squad which will usually die on the turn after. But I will echo other posters and say that plasma pistols are the better choice for Tempestors.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:22:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bobthehero]]></author>
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				<title>Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d11efb9cda4e461147d7d7ddec3a6cee.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/768069/10265229.page"><b>Togusa wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9f39b7beeabc67999ed8fcd8303512fe.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/768069/10264463.page"><b>Trickstick wrote:</b></a><br/>Plasma is cheap and good. You pay less than half the cost of a plasma gun, yet get half the fire power. However, I can see the hot shot being worth it with the drop formation, mainly because it can actually get within range to fire. I would still go with plasma though, it is too good. Also, with the drop formation warlord trait, you get +1 to hit. So you don't even have to worry about overheat.<br /> <br /> For general use, the pistol allows you to shoot on 9" drops. If literally all you care about is the special weapons, then going with the cheap option works. Still, plasma pistol would be better.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I believe that +1 doesn't matter, it's a natural 1 and would still explode. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Plasma only explodes on a modified 1. You're mixing up two rules there.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 07:58:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dandelion]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Hot-Shot Laspistol VS Bolt Pistol: Part Two Grimdark Boogaloo</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hot-shot laspistols are almost pointless on anything tempestus.  Throw a krak grenade instead.  Same range.  Only shoot with the pistol in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.<br /> <br /> If you want to give your officer a pistol that actually does something go plasma or go home.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 11 Dec 2018 08:10:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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