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With the recent points drops on both Hulls and weapons they seem to be not to bad in the game for the first time in a long time so I decided to knock up a list using as many of them as I could.

So the questions are, is this actually viable? I see the main issue as getting locked in combat by hordes but what else would smash it without breaking sweat. I'm not looking to win any tournaments with this, just hoping that it might give me a good game or two.

Secondly which chapter to run them as, I'm happy playing them as any but think that either Ultra's, salamanders or Iron Hands (fluffyest) would be best.



Battalion

Techmarine On Bike Servoarm, Chainsword, Stormbolter, Twin Bolter 74
Techmarine Conversion Beamer, Chainsword, Boltgun (Could be Srg Telion Instead if Ultra) 65
5 Scouts 4x Sniper, Heavy Bolter 71
5 Scouts 5x Bolter, Chainsword 55
5 Scouts 5x Combat Blade 55
Venerable Dreadnought Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher 140
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought Storm Cannon Arrray, Grav-Flux Bombard, 2x Heavy Flamer 318
Thunderfire Cannon 2x Servo Arm, Plasma Cutter, Flamer 92
Thunderfire Cannon 2x Servo Arm, Plasma Cutter, Flamer 92

Vanguard

Chaplain Dreadnought Storm Bolter, DCCW, Twin Lascannon 192
Dreadnought Assault Cannon, DCCW, Stormbolter 114
Dreadnought 2x Twin Autocannon 93
Ironclad Dreadnought Hurricane Bolter, Dreadnought Chainfist, Stormbolter 120
Ironclad Dreadnought DCCW, Dreadnought Chainfist, 2x Heavy Flamer 136
Relic Contemptor Dreadnought 2x C-Beam Cannon 170
Relic Sicaran Battle Tank Twin Accelerator autocannon, 1x Heavy Bolter, 2x Lascannons 213

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They are very slow... Flamer dreadnoughts wont be firing a single shot I am afraid, and due to weapon choice no one isn't charing them unless really need to tie them up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10311453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10311453.page GMT [2000] - Space Marines - All Dreadnought (well nearly) Viable? CA18 you need more troops. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10311544.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10311544.page GMT [2000] - Space Marines - All Dreadnought (well nearly) Viable?
The flamers are modelled on in most cases but are intended to be a charge deterrent, if the enemy isn't coming towards me then I'm reasonably happy anyway.

The missions could be an issue, but I don't think our local group will be playing them too often, we like to mix it up.

One option I'm thinking about is swapping the Sicaran for a Deredeo with Atomantic Pavaise. It plays up the all dreadnought vibe and give me a nice Invulnerable save bubble to cover my firebase.
I would need to buy one and I really like the plasma weapon but it has major range issues.

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 WisdomLS wrote:
Thanks for the points pointer, I've removed them.

The flamers are modelled on in most cases but are intended to be a charge deterrent, if the enemy isn't coming towards me then I'm reasonably happy anyway.

The missions could be an issue, but I don't think our local group will be playing them too often, we like to mix it up.

One option I'm thinking about is swapping the Sicaran for a Deredeo with Atomantic Pavaise. It plays up the all dreadnought vibe and give me a nice Invulnerable save bubble to cover my firebase.
I would need to buy one and I really like the plasma weapon but it has major range issues.



Deredeo's perform pretty well, especially since they get to benefit from Chapter Tactics. I prefer the Anvilus Autocannons myself.

If you need a delivery system for the more melee focused Dreads, you could always consider a Stormraven.
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The close combat dreads are more of a slow moving deterrent than an assault force, I want them to distract the enemy and intercept assault units whilst putting out a little firepower. Advancing them quickly would be useful but not necessary I don't think. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10312758.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10312758.page GMT Re:[2000] - Space Marines - All Dreadnought (well nearly) Viable?
I've added it into the list and swapped a couple of bits around as I had made a mistake on the autocannon dread cost. Also decided on Salamanders as I think their chapter tactic benefits the army most.

The list puts out a fair amount of anti-infantry and anti-tank firepower backed up by alot of versatile firepower can can do a fair job at either, the scouts are there just to push out a screen and I have three dreads that pack a mean punch in combat. The techs should be able to keep my big hitters rolling and chip in as needed.
Not going to smash a tournament but should be playable I hope ;-)
Plus it has 9 dreads in it!

Salamanders Battalion

Techmarine On Bike Servoarm, Chainsword, Boltgun, Twin Bolter 72
Techmarine Conversion Beamer, Chainsword, Boltgun 65
5 Scouts 5x Bolter, Chainsword 55
5 Scouts 5x Bolter, Chainsword 55
5 Scouts 5x Combat Blade 55
Venerable Dreadnought Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher 140
Relic Leviathan Dreadnought Storm Cannon Arrray, Grav-Flux Bombard, 2x Heavy Flamer 318
Thunderfire Cannon 2x Servo Arm, Plasma Cutter, Flamer 92
Thunderfire Cannon 2x Servo Arm, Plasma Cutter, Flamer 92

Salamanders Vanguard

Chaplain Dreadnought Storm Bolter, DCCW, Plasma Cannon 168
Dreadnought Twin Lascannon, Missile Launcher 120
Dreadnought 2x Twin Autocannon 126
Dreadnought Assault Cannon, DCCW, Stormbolter 114
Ironclad Dreadnought DCCW, Dreadnought Chainfist, 2x Heavy Flamer 136
Relic Contemptor Dreadnought 2x C-Beam Cannon 170
Relic Deredeo Dreadnought Anvillus Autocannon Battery, Twin Heavy Bolter, Atomantic Pavaise 222

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And I know the Cyclonic Melta Lance is not an optimal weapon choice for the Levi, but combining it with Vulkan's aura makes it pretty deadly, it allowed me to one-shot a Gorkanaut in Overwatch ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10314029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10314029.page GMT [2000] - Space Marines - All Dreadnought (well nearly) Viable? T9, 4+++, dam3 flamers.

If I hadn't just splashed out on the deredeo.....

The lance is nice but I don't have one, my levi is rocking just the Grav-flux and stormcannon, I can swap one out for a siege drill but they are pretty poor in CC so I don't see the point.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10314129.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/770000/10314129.page GMT