Beersarius Drawl wrote:

 Lord Clinto wrote:
Khorne was the first god of chaos, first choice?

I thought Nurgle was first?

TarkinLarson wrote:

 Beersarius Drawl wrote:
It is interesting that the big four are always in competition, but I have been waiting a story line that shows a high level of cooperation. "Organised chaos" or organisation to deliver chaos unto the Galaxy.

For example if Nurgle and Tzentch could work together, they could deliver mental disease on a scale never seen before.

In Dark Imperium, the Ultramar apothecaries treat mental health like they do the plagues, so given the Tznetch's penchant for change, would this allegiance make sense, even though they both strive for individual power?


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This could also play out in a way as to affect the current pantheon and, maybe give us more insight into their sacred numbers.

It appears to be common enough for chaos gods to work together. In the Horus Heresy it is shown that Slaanesh and Khorne work together in an attempt to convert/kill/occupy the Blood Angels. There is fluff about Skarbrand I think it is... who was a daemon prince of chaos undivided. I think he was the first one they instilled their powers into, but it didn't work out, so they promised never to do it again.

If a single chaos god gets powerful enough the remainder do gang up on them, but as soon as the top god is deposed the allies soon turn on each other again. Of course all of this blood lettings still fuels Khorne. Even killing his own troops his a form of worship.

pm713 wrote:

TarkinLarson wrote:

 Beersarius Drawl wrote:
It is interesting that the big four are always in competition, but I have been waiting a story line that shows a high level of cooperation. "Organised chaos" or organisation to deliver chaos unto the Galaxy.

For example if Nurgle and Tzentch could work together, they could deliver mental disease on a scale never seen before.

In Dark Imperium, the Ultramar apothecaries treat mental health like they do the plagues, so given the Tznetch's penchant for change, would this allegiance make sense, even though they both strive for individual power?


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This could also play out in a way as to affect the current pantheon and, maybe give us more insight into their sacred numbers.

It appears to be common enough for chaos gods to work together. In the Horus Heresy it is shown that Slaanesh and Khorne work together in an attempt to convert/kill/occupy the Blood Angels. There is fluff about Skarbrand I think it is... who was a daemon prince of chaos undivided. I think he was the first one they instilled their powers into, but it didn't work out, so they promised never to do it again.

If a single chaos god gets powerful enough the remainder do gang up on them, but as soon as the top god is deposed the allies soon turn on each other again. Of course all of this blood lettings still fuels Khorne. Even killing his own troops his a form of worship.

You're thinking of Bel'akor.

Skarbrand is a Bloodthirster who thought he take Khorne in a fight.

Chaos can work together for temporary alliances pretty easily they just can't do it long term because they're pretty selfish beings.

Nurglitch wrote:8 are the directions of the Eightfold Path, though their beginning and their ending is 9 from which all flows and to which all returns. Yet there is no 9 without the 3 elements of life, death, and rebirth. These 3 are the 7 when counted without order, and infinite when ordered without counting. Following the path inward we find the 6 temptations that will shrive our souls. Onwards and inwards goes the Eightfold Path, annihilating all ego and material illusion. Till all become none.

The 1 is no preacher, no philosopher, no spiritual explorer, no dreamer and certainly not an idealist. It is a pragmatist, a ruthless conqueror and a warrior extraordinaire. It is individualistic and independent to a fault. It will attempt to force its values and opinions on you but it won't accept, or even listen to, yours.

perhaps the most dominating trait in the 5 is her uncompromising demand for freedom in thought and action. She makes up her own mind, rebels against any and all dogmas and ideologies, and does not allow herself to be absorbed into clubs, cults, religious sects or ideologies of any kind.

The 6, while loving, caring and full of sympathy for others, is self-centered and egotistical at heart. If those at the receiving end of her care do not show the attention she craves, she can turn on them, even hurt them.

The 7 is physically lanky and tall, but not athletic and doesn't care about sports. 7s are not warriors, but you may find some people with the 7 dominating their charts in the military, most likely as analysts or strategic planners. More often, however, you will find them in the world of academics and science. Police detectives, laboratory researchers and other careers where logical, methodical analysis of facts are the main requirements of the job.

Some of the more recognizable traits of the 8 are drive, ambition, authority, efficiency, organization, management, discipline and control. The 8 is goal-oriented, focused, has good judgment, can discriminate and is practical, a realist. Its closest relative is the 1 as both numbers are powerful, have strong leadership skills, are unquestionably masculine and will not shy away from a confrontation. However, where the 1 lacks diplomatic skills and an understanding of human nature -- more typically the traits of the 2 -- the 8 has those abilities as well, which is perhaps the most important reason the 8 tends to do well in business and in authority roles (the military and law enforcement draw a lot of 8s).

But when circumstances require, she can be a powerful force, strong enough to take over and bend others to her will (just as she does when she is used to multiply any other number; she takes complete control). Yet she is not a leader in the way both the 1 and the 8 are leaders; her leadership qualities are in the higher realms of philosophy and justice. She changes your mind!
As with any number, the 9 has a dark side. She can be condescending, arrogant, cold and apathetic towards the suffering of others. When the 9 shows her dark side, it is egotistic, cruel, immoral and completely untouchable.

]https://thesecretofthetarot.com/numerology-number-10/ wrote:The Pythagoreans believed that the number 10 was the greatest of all numbers because 10 grasps all arithmetic proportions. The Pythagoreans took their oaths by the number 10 perhaps because they considered 10 to be the holiest of numbers. The Richter scale and the French Revolution Calendar (not used since 1806) are based on the number 10.

Negative aspects of the number 10 includes a lack of consideration and tolerance for other people’s thoughts. There is also a certain numbness about them. It doesn’t bother them to be alone, so, unless given a reason, they feel little need for increasing their tolerance or considering the thoughts of others.

These people can acquire a position of authority, but they should remember to keep in touch with their humanity and understand that all parts are essential to the whole. They work until they are worn out, so it’s no wonder they have difficulty allowing for the imperfections of others. They should strive for moderation and attempt to gain patience so they can enjoy their successes.

...eight arrows representing all possibilities, one arrow representing the single, certain road of Law.