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Part fluff, part gameplay question here.

I base my Ulthwé army on the concept of the Ulthwé Strikeforce first seen in 3rd edition. I dug out my old Codex Craftworld Eldar supplement Codex recently to remind myself of the flavour of the Strikeforce and the way it describes the famous Webway strike is that some units, like support batteries and war walkers, pin the enemy in place before the strike is launched from the Webway.

So, my question is, is it assumed some units have emerged from a Webway Portal nearby before the battle, explaining why they are already there?

Might seem like a pointless question but just trying to get it all straight in my head as my unit choice, what I do and don’t deploy and my tactics / strategy will rely on this somewhat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634506.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question
Support batteries are cheap and pretty good now and War Walkers are decent chaff killers but can be turned into heavy weapon platforms.
You can then use Guardians to strike from the webway supported by a range of other units and get a great narrative going as per the Ulthwe strikeforce of old.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634516.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question
There’s a GW story, or potentially short story, where they are pitted against Tyranids (might have been Valedor?) and it describes them coming through the Webway and the platforms sort of form a beachhead near the main portal.

Another thing is love to get my head around is how to fit Wraithguard in. I know they’re not 100% Ulthwé Strikeforce but, love them as I do, I wonder if they’d Webway Strike our even run up the field. Wave serpents visually don’t look like they fit Wraithguard inside them which bothers me.

I only wish the rules for the Webway gate model were good!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634521.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

Bhazakhain wrote:
That’s great! Thanks for that. Wanted to give it a sounding in the community. I was thinking along similar lines.

There’s a GW story, or potentially short story, where they are pitted against Tyranids (might have been Valedor?) and it describes them coming through the Webway and the platforms sort of form a beachhead near the main portal.

Another thing is love to get my head around is how to fit Wraithguard in. I know they’re not 100% Ulthwé Strikeforce but, love them as I do, I wonder if they’d Webway Strike our even run up the field. Wave serpents visually don’t look like they fit Wraithguard inside them which bothers me.

I only wish the rules for the Webway gate model were good!

Important to remember that you can only webway strike 2 Infantry units, so yes you can put them in the webway but it means only one other unit can join them. Personally I'd put 2 units of Guardians in the webway and have the Wraithguard start on the table.

As for the vehicles, it's worth remebering that most vehicles in the game are massively undersized, I mean a rhino doesn't look like it would fit any space marines, let alone 10. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634550.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634550.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question
Yep only 2 units in the Webway (unless you use that new custom Craftworld trait) but with everything coming up or popping out the Webway maybe 7-8 Wraithguard running up wouldn’t fare so badly. It would mean the opponent would know where the anti armour is rather than a surprise drop in from the Webway but could be a good threat / form of board control. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10634559.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

Bhazakhain wrote:
Wave serpents visually don’t look like they fit Wraithguard inside them which bothers me.

For that matter I've never thought they look like they'd fit a min. squad of Eldar in either....

So I always just envision the Wave Serpent/Falcon as containing a mobile webway portal. Ramp opens, portal activates, the troops exit/enter.
I modeled mine like that. Magnetized door opens & there's a purple swirly pattern visible right inside. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10635159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10635159.page GMT Re:Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10635187.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10635187.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

ccs wrote:

Bhazakhain wrote:
Wave serpents visually don’t look like they fit Wraithguard inside them which bothers me.

That’s an awesome idea! Sort of like what the Necrons have in their Monoliths.

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Elbows wrote:
You can build a new Craftworld using the Psychic Awakening book, where one of the options is to gain additional Webway Portal Stratagems (I think it's an additional one per detachment you produce). So you could use that make it more thematic.

Yeah I’ve been playing with the idea of making a bespoke Ulthwe Strikeforce with the new custom Craftworld rules (and obviously losing the ulthwe keyword and this stratagem, Eldrad etc.) but have so far thought about pairing Martial Citizenry with either Hail of Doom, Expert Crafters or Webway Warriors.

People I’ve mentioned this to say to tell your opponent first, but it’s 100% legit isn’t it? I mean, I’m not saying I want to use Ulthwé relics, stratagems, characters etc. AND custom traits? I’m a total fluff bunny so have no intent to twist the rules in my favour. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10636911.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10636911.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question
You can run any rules you like regardless of colour.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10636915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10636915.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637013.page GMT Re:Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637285.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

ccs wrote:

Bhazakhain wrote:
Wave serpents visually don’t look like they fit Wraithguard inside them which bothers me.

I think one of the Eldar superheavies without rules is basically that. It's just a flying mini webway gate.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10637564.page GMT Re:Ulthwé Strikeforce question Warwalkers with Shuricannons can also come in from reserve.

You are going to need something to start on the table though, so not sure what you feel fluffy for this.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10638041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10638041.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question HQs, plus two vypers and the support platforms (4 or 6 distort cannons). Rangers would come on T1 and then guardian blobs, Swooping hawks and walkers come on later. Basically nothing squishy on display until the Webway Strike hits ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10639751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10639751.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

That’s an awesome idea! Sort of like what the Necrons have in their Monoliths.

that actually was a thing in epic. One eldar superheavy we never saw "full scale" was the Storm Serpent - basically a flying webway gate strapped to a scorpion/cobra chassis in place of the prow and main guns. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10640010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10640010.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10640211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10640211.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question

Bhazakhain wrote:
Wow, well I never knew that!

You can read about it in the epic Armageddon swordwind supplement found here:

http://www.net-armageddon.org/rules.html

Alongside another super heavy called the void spinner which used pre-fall technology in the form of wraithbone parasites and customised bacteria to breakdown worlds and rebuild them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642006.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642009.page GMT Ulthwé Strikeforce question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/782583/10642235.page GMT