p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

BrianDavion wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

Maybe but if Admech just gets a new codex instead they might not actually apper.

if thats the case it'll be three factions, thats what PA 4 has and it's got plenty of content.

 Stux wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

Maybe but if Admech just gets a new codex instead they might not actually apper.

if thats the case it'll be three factions, thats what PA 4 has and it's got plenty of content.

We know they appear, they showed a graphic.

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

 Dysartes wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that any of the factions are getting as much as the BA/DA supplement content in the last two PA books, so that should increase how much space is available per faction. Even if space is used to reprint all the AdMech datasheets not currently in their 'dex - and allowing for the previewed units - there should be plenty of room for content for t'other three factions.

 Kanluwen wrote:
There's at least 10 units(2 Skorpius variants, 2 cavalry, 2 winged crazies, 3 flyers, 1 Techpriest Manipulus) for the AdMech...and there was a hinting that this wasn't everything.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
I predict that every faction gets less rules because there are four factions in it, unlike other PA books, which only had two or three factions. I doubt the book will have more pages as the other PA books.

On the other hand, it is unlikely that any of the factions are getting as much as the BA/DA supplement content in the last two PA books, so that should increase how much space is available per faction. Even if space is used to reprint all the AdMech datasheets not currently in their 'dex - and allowing for the previewed units - there should be plenty of room for content for t'other three factions.

There's at least 10 units(2 Skorpius variants, 2 cavalry, 2 winged crazies, 3 flyers, 1 Techpriest Manipulus) for the AdMech...and there was a hinting that this wasn't everything.

I wouldn't be shocked if this ends up as a Vigilus Ablaze situation, where there's a reprinted book and a full accounting of the units in the campaign bit.

 Sim-Life wrote:
Daemons get a 1cp strat to negate a Grey Knight Tide for the whole turn.

The Salt Mine wrote:
Its going to be how every other PA that had both Imperials and Chaos factions in it. The Imperial stuff gets all the good rules and the Chaos stuff is thrown in as an after thought!

I'm only mostly joking. But I'm still woefully let down by my 1ksons stuff.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

The Newman wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

Nothing that swingy gets to count as mitigation.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Not hard to keep the ICON bearer. As Daed mentioned there's also an autopass for 2CP. They have more morale mitigation options than most.

Wait, what?

*goes to recheck codex*

Yeah, not seeing that. Where might I find this rule?

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

.... that's a pretty solid trait actually. or do CWE not have any infantry that can be taken in large blocks or no vehicles they can use?

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

.... that's a pretty solid trait actually. or do CWE not have any infantry that can be taken in large blocks or no vehicles they can use?

The Newman wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

.... that's a pretty solid trait actually. or do CWE not have any infantry that can be taken in large blocks or no vehicles they can use?

Yeah, Daemons would happily take that trait.

 Psionara wrote:
Engine War... with no Necrons... who are literal machines of war... huh, I didn't expect that one.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Psionara wrote:
Engine War... with no Necrons... who are literal machines of war... huh, I didn't expect that one.

in 40k the term "engine" is useally used to refer to Titans. so an engine war would be a battle between titan legions.

The Salt Mine wrote:

The Newman wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I wouldn't call it a prediction, but I'm really hoping Daemons get a way to mitigate leadership tests. They have rules to encourage taking 30-man squads and nothing to get around how badly the morale rules punish taking big squads like that.

Don't daemons replenish their units on a morale roll of a 6? Seems like a way to mitigate LD tests to me?

Nothing that swingy gets to count as mitigation.


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 An Actual Englishman wrote:

Rihgu wrote:
It's a 1, but yes. They also need their icon bearer alive to do that.

Not hard to keep the ICON bearer. As Daed mentioned there's also an autopass for 2CP. They have more morale mitigation options than most.

Wait, what?

*goes to recheck codex*

Yeah, not seeing that. Where might I find this rule?

The 2CP auto pass moral is a core rule book stratagem along with interrupting close combat and the re roll a dice single dice. But yeah daemon codex moral mitigation is pretty trash compared to most other horde armies that just get to straight up ignore it most of the time.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Argive wrote:
They could get the CWE Iyanden a hand me down trait:

Never loose more than 1 model as result of failed morale and models with degrading profile count as having double number of wounds.

CWE don't need/ want it or use it

.... that's a pretty solid trait actually. or do CWE not have any infantry that can be taken in large blocks or no vehicles they can use?

 dan2026 wrote:
Daemons need some overall rules to benefit taking a mixed god army.

The fact that the book is essentially divided into quarters at the moment is absurd.