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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?<br /> <br /> I know multiple CHARACTERS can be a unit on some Dataslates (Like the Adepta Sororitas – Geminae Superia which can have 2 models and they are both characters in a single unit)<br /> <br /> But are there units that have some CHARACTERS and other models without the CHARACTER keyword as a single unit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Jun 2020 21:43:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/4c88678b47c696ff320c311a3a04b86c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10835871.page"><b>DeathReaper wrote:</b></a><br/>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?<br /> <br /> I know multiple CHARACTERS can be a unit on some Dataslates (Like the Adepta Sororitas – Geminae Superia which can have 2 models and they are both characters in a single unit)<br /> <br /> But are there units that have some CHARACTERS and other models without the CHARACTER keyword as a single unit?</div></blockquote>Big Mek (whichever ones can take a Grot Oiler) and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(722);'>GSC</span> Patriarch. However they have an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> dealing with that issue in 8th (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, it explicitly even calls out the Patriarch). <br /> <br /> In 9th it seems that the Character rule itself is sufficient, the entire unit benefits from Character "protection" because the unit "contains any CHARACTER models".]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Jun 2020 22:04:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ dark apostle, tau battle suits]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Jun 2020 23:07:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b1c22fec38cb9c292e5496e5ed9bb8f0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10835954.page"><b>brazenjaw wrote:</b></a><br/>dark apostle, tau battle suits</div></blockquote>Huh? Dark Apostle is a single model. Tau Battlesuits don't have Character models in it. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 18 Jun 2020 23:40:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Badrukk can take an ammo runt.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:28:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blackie]]></author>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b1c22fec38cb9c292e5496e5ed9bb8f0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10835954.page"><b>brazenjaw wrote:</b></a><br/>dark apostle, tau battle suits</div></blockquote><br /> Dark disciples are a separate unit from the apostle. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:36:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Death Korps Quartermaster Cadre. The Quartermaster is a character, his Servitors are not.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:54:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/b1c22fec38cb9c292e5496e5ed9bb8f0.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10835954.page"><b>brazenjaw wrote:</b></a><br/>dark apostle, tau battle suits</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> T'au Commanders can be taken with some Drones but the two separate into their own units when the battle begins, so I don't think that really counts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:28:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Aun'va.<br /> <br /> The Aun'va model has the character keyword but the two ethereal do not. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 09:50:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Orks have tons of grot options]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:04:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10836354.page"><b>tneva82 wrote:</b></a><br/>Orks have tons of grot options</div></blockquote>Not really a "ton". Big Mek (though there are technically 4 different Big Mek datasheets) and Captain Badrukk are the only ones <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>, since the Grot Orderly isn't a "model", just a wargear upgrade represented by a model (like a Cherub).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 19 Jun 2020 14:08:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/a13d02981142600834984afee274cb69.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10836360.page"><b>BaconCatBug wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10836354.page"><b>tneva82 wrote:</b></a><br/>Orks have tons of grot options</div></blockquote>Not really a "ton". Big Mek (though there are technically 4 different Big Mek datasheets) and Captain Badrukk are the only ones <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>, since the Grot Orderly isn't a "model", just a wargear upgrade represented by a model (like a Cherub).</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Those grots are part of the unit, not just wargear. They have their own profile, can die by soaking wounds for the character they screen and even reduce the transport capacity of vehicles if they are embarked, because they actually take one seat per model. Cherubs don't have any of these qualities. In older editions ammo runts, oilers, orderlies, etc were wargear just like cherubs, now they're real models<br /> <br /> 3 big meks and a mek can take an oiler. Badrukk can have an ammo runt. That's all, outside index/legend options. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 20 Jun 2020 08:35:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blackie]]></author>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Pask?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2020 08:03:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DalekCheese]]></author>
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				<title>Are there any units that have Characters and non Characters in the same unit in 8th ed?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/bf8130746ffe83da0abb34eeb84968e6.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/789330/10839720.page"><b>DalekCheese wrote:</b></a><br/>Pask?</div></blockquote>What about Pask? He's just a special Tank Commander. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2020 08:09:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh, nvm then.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2020 21:14:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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