<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
Just getting back into the hobby and am about to finish off the SM half of my Dark Imperiam box set.
I was wondering what SM chapter would be a good, balanced one to go against Nurgle? I will be teaching(and learning more myself) 40k with a friend, so want to choose a chapter that will be a fair fight regardless what side either of us play.
My goal here is not to have one army far better than the other.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879942.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879942.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
I'd suggest Ultramarines, as they're just an all around "good" one, it doesnt counter Nurgle directly at all.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879988.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
I'd suggest Ultramarines, as they're just an all around "good" one, it doesnt counter Nurgle directly at all.


Another vote for Ultras. Solid, reliable, but not overly tricky to use or to play against.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879991.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10879991.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
 vaklor4 wrote:
Do you mean Death Guard or Demons? Because at the moment in 9th Death Guard are actually in an ok place, while Nurgle Demons are sorta middling.

I'd suggest Ultramarines, as they're just an all around "good" one, it doesnt counter Nurgle directly at all.


Sorry, Death Guard. Models strictly out of the Dark Imperium box to start. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880170.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
Still, I vote for Ultramarines. They have a pretty fair and well-rounded trait.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880221.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
If you're absolutely committed to making them something, make them whatever you want, not what you think will be balanced. Painting an army is too much work to do for any reason other than you really want to run that army.

Death guard are also extremely strong right now - one of the few armies that are fairly matched against space marines - so I wouldn't worry about gimping yourself to be fair. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880233.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
Whatever you pick will work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880279.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle? IMHO really directly counter nurgle so play what you like ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880479.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880479.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
BrianDavion wrote:
None of the chapter tactics etc IMHO really directly counter nurgle so play what you like


That's not entirely true. I'd suggest Blood Angels as a good foil to Death Guard - that +1 to wound on the first turn of combat largely bypasses the increased toughness of PM and blightlords. Sure DG have lots of strats to help them out in CC, but none of them are worth a single CP if the DG unit is dead before it gets to swing. DG also tend to castle up for a stronger defence, whereas BA have the manoeuvrability to encircle them and hold down more objectives.

Finally, although DG have a lot of good plague-flamer weapons on their daemon engines, with overwatch becoming a stratagem this will be a lot less of a barrier (and BA have ways to negate overwatch anyway).

In the alternative, take Iron Hands because DG struggle with not having too much in the way of effective anti-tank.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880490.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10880490.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle? I think I may just keep it simple and go with Ultramarines!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881423.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
 Drakeslayer wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
None of the chapter tactics etc IMHO really directly counter nurgle so play what you like


That's not entirely true. I'd suggest Blood Angels as a good foil to Death Guard - that +1 to wound on the first turn of combat largely bypasses the increased toughness of PM and blightlords. Sure DG have lots of strats to help them out in CC, but none of them are worth a single CP if the DG unit is dead before it gets to swing. DG also tend to castle up for a stronger defence, whereas BA have the manoeuvrability to encircle them and hold down more objectives.

Finally, although DG have a lot of good plague-flamer weapons on their daemon engines, with overwatch becoming a stratagem this will be a lot less of a barrier (and BA have ways to negate overwatch anyway).

In the alternative, take Iron Hands because DG struggle with not having too much in the way of effective anti-tank.

The goal is not to tailor to beat Death Guard, the goal is to give fair and fun games.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881441.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
 JNAProductions wrote:
 Drakeslayer wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
None of the chapter tactics etc IMHO really directly counter nurgle so play what you like


That's not entirely true. I'd suggest Blood Angels as a good foil to Death Guard - that +1 to wound on the first turn of combat largely bypasses the increased toughness of PM and blightlords. Sure DG have lots of strats to help them out in CC, but none of them are worth a single CP if the DG unit is dead before it gets to swing. DG also tend to castle up for a stronger defence, whereas BA have the manoeuvrability to encircle them and hold down more objectives.

Finally, although DG have a lot of good plague-flamer weapons on their daemon engines, with overwatch becoming a stratagem this will be a lot less of a barrier (and BA have ways to negate overwatch anyway).

In the alternative, take Iron Hands because DG struggle with not having too much in the way of effective anti-tank.

The goal is not to tailor to beat Death Guard, the goal is to give fair and fun games.


yeah in this case he was asking what to AVOID if he doesn't wanna run the risk of slaughtering the death guard opponent, hence my point that non of the CTs seem to be a hard counter ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881605.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881682.page GMT What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
 Drakeslayer wrote:
Ah right, my mistake!


no worries it's not exactly the normal kind of question/conversation line on dakkadakka ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881684.page GMT Re:What chapter to fairly face Nurgle?
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But to the OP's point, I'd say avoid too many really tough vehicles on the side of the marines, or the DG player will have a hard time putting a dent into them. They can have a really hard time of it against gunline armies, particularly if they're massively out-ranged.

Ultramarines is indeed a good shout for a by-the-book match-up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881753.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/790422/10881753.page GMT