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I'm completely on board with this project, over the tepid half baked and unloved (by management mandate, not the writers I'm sure) official lists.

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I absolutely appreciate the work that Val has done with the project. I am hoping that it prods GW to take them more seriously!

The initial Renegades Pack for the Dark Elves used quite a light touch. The proposal last week, though, has many more changes. I really like adding Countercharge to Cold One Knights, and the changes to Witches makes them playable. I used the new pack in a game last week and it was fun.

I haven't digested the changes to Skaven, but the Skaven player in our group and I were talking last night and he thinks they are good changes.

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As a die-hard Skaven player from literally day one, I’m sure it’s no surprise that I’m pro-Renegades, but I continue to be quite happy with how well Val et al have been handling things. Obviously, I’d prefer that GW just flat-out supported the Legacy factions but Square Based’s efforts have been a worthy alternative.

As for the specifics, happy the Dregs are back. And understand the reason for the name change. Would still love to see palanquin and Rat Ogre mount options. Plus, of course, the Verminlord. But also get that might be a step too far.

Valete,

JohnS
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My only complaint is something they can't do any thing about.

Long spears.... Should be the default for thrusting spears but gak. wish Val had changed a few units to be able to use them,

And sisters of slaghter still need there own identity and not just better witch elves.

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Heck, there’s a case to be made about fixing issues with the core rules that GW seems determined to ignore….

But Val et al have been very clear. They’re looking to “fix” the non-functional Legacy .pdfs, but they’re not touching anything directly related to the core game. That’s outside the remit SB have given themselves.

Valete,

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