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So having played the daemon prince for WoC for a while, it feels like it needs some tweaks. Some are for thematic reasons, others are to make it more playable.

The first major change is that it gains the Infernal Favour (2) rules. The main issue with it is Unstable and essentially crumbling over a banner. Being unable to hide in units, as it’s infantry and unbreakable, makes this especially problematic. Part of me also feels it should have Daemonic Instability simply for consistency reasons.

The next change is that rather than using marks from the Chaos Warriors book, it should have the same rules as the daemons. This sets it apart from mortal heroes and actually makes the Khorne one playable without making drastic changes. On top of this, I think it would make sense that it used Daemon gifts over the Warrior ones. This follows how Shaggoths work and means they provide something different from Warriors. Generally speaking, a Chaos Lord is a better option unless you want a combi-wizard choice.

Lastly, it should lose Eye of the Gods. Simply from a thematic standpoint, this makes little sense. It’s already been made a Daemon Prince — it’s received all the boons its god will grant.

Thoughts? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/818721/11815407.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/818721/11815407.page GMT
The unstable basically means it needs to stay out of combat, so Infernal Favour would be welcome.

Good suggestion with losing Eye of the Gods, but maybe it should get higher stats.

With the mark replacment, because it's a whole other book it would probably be better to give them printed unique options similar to Forsaken and Spawns do instead of having marks.

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As a Khorne player and have several models, atm, its very hard to use.

Well what I am doing is actually writing my own army of Infamy for each good and take inspiration from HoC combined chaos Rules. The main difference is to have one for each god and them another one based on being daemon led, mortal lead and beast led.

This was the rough draft of the model one

LEGIONS OF KHORNE — ARMY OF INFAMY

ARMY COMPOSITION

Characters
- 0–1 Chaos Lord or Daemon Prince
- 0–1 Exalted Champion per 1,000pts
- Aspiring Champions
- 0–1 Daemonic Herald of Khorne per unit of Bloodletters

Core (25%+)
- Chaos Warriors (MoK)
- Chaos Knights (MoK)
- Forsaken (MoK)
- Marauders (MoK + 2pts per model)
- Chaos Warhounds

Special (Up to 50%)
- 0-1 Chosen Knights (MoK)
- 0-1 Chosen Warriors (MoK)
- Bloodletters
- Flesh Hounds
- Bloodcrushers
- Chaos Furies (DoK)
- Dragon Ogres
- Ogres (MoK)
- Minotaurs (MoK +5pts model)
- Chaos spawn (MoK, M3D6, uses standard MoK)
- Chaos Chariot (MoK)

Rare (Up to 25%)
- 0–1 Skullcrushers of Khorne
- 0-1 Chosen Chariot of Khorne per 1,000pts
- 0–1 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth per unit of Dragon Ogres
- 0–1 Skullcannon per 1,000pts
- 0–1 Chaos Giant per 1,000pts

SPECIAL RULES
Mark of Khorne (Revised)
+1 WS, Immune to Psychology, Impetuous,

Daemonic (Revised)
5+ Ward save, Fear, Immune to Psychology, Magical Attacks, Unbreakable, Warp-spawned, Unstable
Characters cannot join non-Daemonic units
Daemon of Khorne
+1 Strength in first round of combat, Magic Resistance (1), Hatred (Slaanesh)

Hellblade
Range: Combat, S+1, AP1, Cleaving Blow

Gaze of Khorne
The Gaze of Khorne table replaces the Gaze of the Gods table for this army.
A model with the Gaze of the Gods special rule instead uses the Gaze of Khorne table.

A model may roll on this table once per turn if it:
- removes the last Wound from an enemy Character, Monster, or Unit Champion, or
- destroys an enemy unit with Unit Strength 10 or more


Gaze of Khorne Table (2D6)


2 — Khorne’s Disdain
Stupidity. If already has it, -1 Leadership
3 — Blood Hunger
+1 Initiative
4 — Crushing Hooves
Stomp (1), stacks
5 — Relentless Killer
+1 Weapon Skill
6 — Slaughter’s Momentum
Impact Hits (1), stacks
7 — Khorne’s Favour
+1 Attack
8 — Blood-Forged Body
+1 Wound
9 — Collar of Khorne
Magic Resistance (1), increases
10 — Slaughterer’s Strength
+1 Strength and +1 Armour Piercing
11 — Blood Executioner
Killing Blow, or +1 Attack
12 — Favoured of Khorne
Monster Slayer, or +1 to Monster Slayer rolls




CHAOS GIFTS
Spell-Eater — 50 pts (MoK only)
The character may attempt to Dispel enemy spells as if it were a Level 2 Wizard.

UNITS

Chosen Chariot of Khorne: 150pts

Chariot
M – | WS – | BS – | S 5 | T 5 | W 4 | I – | A – | Ld –

Charioteers
M 4 | WS 6 | BS 3 | S 4 | T – | W – | I 5 | A 2 | Ld 8

Chaos Steeds
M 7 | WS 3 | BS – | S 3 | T – | W – | I 3 | A 1 | Ld –

Equipment
Hand Weapons, Halberds, Heavy Armour, Shield

Special Rules
Mark of Khorne, Impact Hits, First Charge

Options
May replace Chaos Steeds with Juggernaut of Khorne + 50pts

Juggernaut of Khorne

Profile
M 7 | WS 4 | BS – | S 5 | T – | W +1 | I 2 | A 2 | Ld –

Equipment
Brass-bound hooves, Barding

Special Rules
Armoured Hide (1), Daemon of Khorne, First Charge, Stomp (1)

Skullcrushers of Khorne

Points / Type
75 points per model
Monstrous Cavalry
Base Size: 50 x 75 mm
Unit Size: 3+

Skullcrusher
M 4 | WS 6 | BS 3 | S 4 | T 4 | W 3 | I 4 | A 2 | Ld 8

Crusher Champion
M 4 | WS 6 | BS 3 | S 4 | T 4 | W 3 | I 4 | A 3 | Ld 8

Juggernaut
M 7 | WS 4 | BS – | S 5 | T – | W – | I 2 | A 2 | Ld –

Equipment
Heavy Armour, Shield, Hand Weapon

Special Rules
Mark of Khorne (Rider), First Charge, Fear, Armoured Hide (1) (Juggernauts), Magical Attacks (Juggernauts), Daemons of Khorne (Juggernauts), swiftstride, Ensorcelled Weapons (Rider)

Options
May upgrade to Full Plate (+12 pts per model)
May take Lances (+5 pts per model)
May take Hellblades (+10 pts per model)

Command Options
One Skullcrusher may be upgraded to a Crusher Champion (+7 pts)
May include a Standard Bearer (+7 pts)
The Standard Bearer may carry a Magic Standard worth up to 75 points
May include a Musician (+7 pts)

Daemon Prince of Khorne

Profile
M 6 | WS 8 | BS 5 | S 6 | T 5 | W 4 | I 7 | A 5 | Ld 9

Type
Monstrous Infantry (Character)

Equipment
Hand Weapon.

Special Rules
Chaos Armour (4+), Regeneration (5+), Causes Terror, Daemonic, Daemon of Khorne, Infernal Favour (2)

Options
Fly (9) + 30pts
Magic Items (100 pts)
Daemonic Gifts (50 pts)

I think ideally that daemons do need an update, but I think I'll keep an eye on what square base do before making massive changes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/818721/11816358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/818721/11816358.page GMT