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I'm just wondering... What Leader Character could survive a full salvo?
Assuming you've got a 10-man Intercessor Squad with two Grenade Launchers led by a Lieutenant with MC Bolter and the Eye Of The Primarch. Just running numbers...

40 Bolt Rifle shots
40/6 or 20/3 Lethal Hits at AP-1 D1

2 Krak shots
2/6 or 1/3 Lethal Hits at AP-2 Dd3

2 MC Bolt shots
2/6 or 1/3 Lethal Hits at AP-1 D2

With nothing but Lethals, you're looking at around 3 damage to even a 2+ Save model. If said model is T5 to T7...

20 Bolt Rifle hits
20/3 wounds plus 20/3 Lethals for 40/3 wounds
40/9 failed saves
4.5 average damage

1 Krak hit
2/3 wounds plus 1/3 Lethals for 1 wound
1/2 failed saves
1 average damage

4/3 MC Bolt hits
4/9 wounds plus 3/9 Lethals for 7/9 wounds
7/27 failed saves
14/27 or about .5 average damage

6 damage against a TEQ character. So it's certainly not IMPOSSIBLE to survive it, but on average I can't think of any character off-hand that can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825377.page GMT Surviving Precision
 JNAProductions wrote:
6 damage against a TEQ character. So it's certainly not IMPOSSIBLE to survive it, but on average I can't think of any character off-hand that can.


I mean... Ghaz?

(Yes, he is a Leader for some reason, despite being the size of a Dreadnought with a statline to match)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825390.page GMT Surviving Precision
 Ashiraya wrote:
 JNAProductions wrote:
6 damage against a TEQ character. So it's certainly not IMPOSSIBLE to survive it, but on average I can't think of any character off-hand that can.


I mean... Ghaz?

(Yes, he is a Leader for some reason, despite being the size of a Dreadnought with a statline to match)
I forgot he’s a Leader.
Fair point, well made. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825391.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825391.page GMT Surviving Precision http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825396.page GMT Surviving Precision
However, other armies either don't rely on their characters that much, have them in transports or are fielding monsters.

Between agents and their own snipers, marines aren't lacking for precision options, but it's usually not worth bringing them unless the unit would be great without precision, which isn't really the case for a marine battleline unit lead by a character.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825448.page GMT Surviving Precision
It's similar to how plenty of anti-tank squads can reliably wipe out a tank. You can usually counter them by hiding their preferred targets and trying to neutralize the anti-tank unit before exposing your tank. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825573.page GMT Re:Surviving Precision
I'm terrible with names of Dark Angels, but it cleaned out the named Deathwing Character out of a brick of Deathwing Terminators that were parked on the center objective. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/819075/11825642.page GMT