http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net SM: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard, or Orks. Can someone help me decide?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414185.page GMT http://lh5.ggpht.com/_2HAuhOIOb6s/R8skRCuV1jI/AAAAAAAAChY/3vCZwc3CeP0/40k+Ork+Vehicles.jpg]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414211.page GMT
The standard choice should be Space Marines. If you have Blood Angels, then Blood Angels, but if you have the codex, you should just play (Red) Space Marines. Maybe later you change your mind, but it´s always good to learn how to play them (Marines) because really a lot of people play them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414212.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414214.page GMT 40k i wouldnt try guard, not the best army as sometmes they can be unfogiving if you make a small mistake.
marines or orks are pretty solid as a starting army.
out of the 2 i would say marines simply because they would be the most simple starting army.
easy to paint, easy to play, and you can build the whole army in plastic so you dont have to play about with metal.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414220.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414220.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414222.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414224.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414224.page GMT
Space Marines is an army specifically designed for new (and veteran) players. The only reason for playing other different army is that you love the minis or the fluff of this other army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414247.page GMT can someone give me a example for a 500 or 750 point army for this armys so i can see what they are like?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414254.page GMT
Imperial guard is kind of a tough army right now. If you are willing to wait, they should be getting a new codex and I would not want to commit to a style with them that just might not exist in 6 months or a year. Again a hoard army.

Blood Angels are really an assault specialist marine army. With the release of the new Space Marine codex, your stuff is really overpriced. Not saying it is not playable but by the time all is said and done, troop for troop, a SM codex army will have a 200 point bonus on what you pay in the Blood Angel codex.

If you like the idea of red marines, I would follow the previous advice and play a standard marine army. They field most of the same things you will want in a Blood Angel army. Just keep in mind if you want to end up a Blood Angel if you want slots for the special Blood Angel only things like Death Company, Furioso Dreadnoughts or Baal Predators. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414258.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414261.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414261.page GMT DA brings up a bunch of very good points. I have played IG, and I now play Orcs. IG is very unforgiving, and since you don't mind giving up mistakes, that doesn't matter, but one small mistake could mean a win or a loss. Orcs are very forgiving. One big mistake usually*** means nothing. The only problem with Orcs is the volume of figs you have to model and paint. SM's are a mix of both. Being forgiving and unforgiving in the same sense. SM's are a gateway to other armies. They really open your mind to what you can do with certain armies, and they look really cool. I personaly suggest SM's as i should have picked them also as my first army, and not IG/Orcs. Just an opinion of mine. I do hope this helps. As for a 700 pt orc armie, well that is like, 720 pts for 90 orcs, with 3 PK, 6 Big Shoota(3 per squad of 30) and 3 Rokkit Launcha(3 in the other 30 orcs). This works for me. But not for everyone else. Again, I hope this helps!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414272.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414272.page GMT IG and i am starting to think the SM are over-rated]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414280.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414280.page GMT ig then sm are a mute point. i agree with the other guy about waiting for the guard to bulid a guard amy with the current codex you are doing yourself a disservice. 40k is an arms race if ive ever seen one, with each new codex that comes out they get stronger and stronger. the guard are going to get a new codex id say within like 6 months. they got bad *** new stuff that ive heard about. like the ability to take tank squads (3 leaman russ) that only count as 1 heavy support and new combat drills. with 5th edtion everything and its mother gets a decent cover save, so id wait for the new dex. Orks on the other hand. ive seen a whole mess of players move to that army cuz of the blackreach box. in my opinion orks are a power army in 40k now. very forgiving and as for tatics very straight forward. the only draw back to that is you tend to find that every ork player takes pretty much the same list and thats only because its works very well. also the ork codex just got redone so there is no waiting for a new dex, wysiwyg for quite awhile as far as dex and new rules go.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414324.page GMT DA? opps.... i am new at the game but i have played for 7 months. i am willing to go out and buy IG now and in 6 months change my army up for the new stuff. Having a job but not haveing to pay for anything helps]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414343.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414344.page GMT IG so i can get an idea of what to buy]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414345.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/218932.page#388739

This here is a 500-point list of Orks. This is, however, still in the experimental stage and I have yet to try it. I think it would do good though.

Not trying to be biased here, but for a starting army with big numbers, Orks are probably your best bet. They are cheaper money-wise and are very easy to play. Orks are more forgiving than Imperial Guard when they make mistakes. On top of that, their walker-vehicles look cool!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414347.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414347.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414358.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414377.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414377.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414384.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414384.page GMT 40k ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414388.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414389.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414389.page GMT IG I would buy the battle force
1 Tank, and basically a full Infantry platoon]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414395.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414397.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414398.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414398.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414403.page GMT
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1490002&rootCatGameStyle=]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414405.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414410.page GMT lol ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414411.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414412.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414414.page GMT tl rokkits, or tl big shootas, and you can give them power klaws. the outflanking is what costed me dearly at the ard boyz a few weeks ago. 5 of them outflanked me and stripped 2 rail guns off my tanks before i could kill them, effectivly nerfing my army]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414418.page GMT
The deff koptas are Ork Jetbikes.

Bradmammajamma is proposing that you buy one copy of Assault on Black Reach, trade the Space Marine models that come in the box for Ork models that someone else with a copy doesn't want, and you'll have two Warbosses with Power Klaws, 10 Ork Nobz, 40 Boyz with choppas, 6 Deff koptas, and all the other stuff like the rulebook, the template, and so on (except the Marine stuff you traded for more Orks). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414419.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414419.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414424.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414430.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414430.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/220678/414441.page GMT