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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok heres my idea, I was thinking of slowly starting a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> army but I wanted to do something a little different. I mught have some of the fluff off a bit but heres the gist. A brand new chapter was formed to replace one that was destroyed, the gene seeds came from mars ( I read they keep stock there to replenish forces when needed, something like every chapter has to donate seeds) any way they would be Codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> marines, the first battle I played with them would be there very first battle, so I would get to track  how they do over time and build the army from there. Say a Vet seargent does really well over the course of a game(s) but eventually dies, this might be the cahpters first dreadnaught. As far as Vets I would most likely only field one unit of elites. I was thinking that this group was taken aside and given extra training by another chapter (sort of the way Tellion goes around training other scouts from other chapters. They were given extra training, akin to Special forces. A special forces guy with no battle experience still has more skills and training than a standard grunt) The same would go for the captains/ chapter masters. Now as far as things like relic blades and what not, they wouldnt have any. But I still dont want to make an unplayable army so I would just call them something else (2 handed power weapons). For the most part the army would be made up of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads with a As. squad and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> squad. rare stuff that the empire dosent make any more they may have but in very limited quantities (like 1-2 plasma weapons, maybe a small unit of termies) they just dont have resources some of the chapters that have been around for thousands of years have.<br /> <br /> Who would they be? Something like Knights of Terra. I want to do a "Knight" theme and I would try to run them accordingly. For example maybe they never pursue a enemy who is falling back ( a broken unit in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> for example, they arent stupid and still go after defeated enemies) They have a abundance of Chaplains so maybe they always have to take a chaplain in the army and even the captains are chaplains (fun conversions) sort of like chaplain/captain (colonel commisar) either way, its a start I just wanted to get a bit of feed back, so fire away.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ An interesting idea, playing a "virgin" chapter  and using your battles to create a history as you go. One suggestion springs to mind.<br /> You say it's going to be a Codex chapter. That being the case, why not field an Ultramarines Sternguard Squad as part of your force. This squad could easily be part of a cadre dispatched from Ultramar to train your chapter's troops. Because of the way the new Codex works, you could even field Telion as well under the same principle.<br /> <br /> As for the initial creation of the chapter itself, usually a chapter is started from a splinter unit drawn from an existing chapter ( but not always, I admit).<br /> <br /> As for naming, I haven't got a clue, thought I'd have thought Terra had enough of a defence to not need another chapter on it's doorstep. Knowing the colour scheme you plan to use might help with a name.<br /> <br /> Good luck with this project. I'll chip in if I get any useful ideas.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:30:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ yeah I thought about having a squad from another chapter, but marines are head strong and pround they wouldnt want anyone "holding their hand" for them as it were. As far as the Terra thing they dont have to be from earth that would just be a name, I have a few more but its going to be something "kight" based. they are going to be silver Im going to try to paint them up like knights of old maybe doing some personal heraldry (take the grey knight termies little shields and put them on the models, that is if I can find them if not Ill just plasticard them) I thought about doing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> variant where every marine had a squire (1 intitiate for every marine) but I dont want to do a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> army.<br /> <br /> Yes chapters are typically broken off. But I didnt want them to be a shadow of another chapter. I remember reading something about gene stock Ill have to check the books again but I think its doable. If im right they keep stock to create new chapters if they have to.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:39:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ da gob smaka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If memory serves, you ARE correct about chapters being expected to tythe geneseed, and this could indeed form the basis of a new chapter.<br /> <br /> If you're planning a codex chapter, you need to ask yourself how far they go with the codex. Do they just use it for it's organisational doctrine or do they consider it's author as worth venerating ? How rigidly do they follow the codex ?  Such questions can help in establishing the mentality of the chapter and can indicate any little foibles they may have.<br /> <br /> They would, indeed, have their pride, but if they venerate Guilliman, they might consider it an honour to have Ultramarine Veterans working ALONGSIDE them to build the strength of the chapter and aid them in their fight for the Emperor.<br /> <br /> Up to you, of course, it's your baby.<br /> <br /> Name wise, they are Knights, and they are of the Legions Astartes of The Emperor, so why not, simply Knights Astartes, or Knights Imperator ?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 22:51:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've been doing things like this and here's my advice... if you want to have some great stories to build your chapter with.<br /> <br /> Give a number to each guy in your squad. And  give a number to 12 dice, when you roll these dice, keep track of who makes kills. <br /> <br /> I also give awards to units which perform admirably, or do something specific that deserves merit. Like the 1 termie left in a squad of seven taking the last 3 wounds off of a bloodthirster. <br /> <br /> My chapter isn't exactly virgin (founded in Late M38, which is about 300 years ago). But they suffered such massive casualties in the defence of their home planet that they were reduced to little more than a company. Their success in reconstruction (according to fluff, and actual contributions by warhammer players who have given me some of their stuff), is due to aid from the space wolves, raven guard, and ultra marines, hence the presence of representatives of each of those chapters in the ranks of the Angels malignant.<br /> <br /> So yeah... i like the idea, and hope what I said has given you some more. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:20:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike78]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ To name them Knights...  or ... Knights.  :S <br /> <br /> The Knights you do are organized as order (same as 13t century ordos ?) so they must not have any ...knights.. in their name.<br /> I think they need a nice medieval desgin and paint scheme and youre set.  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  <br /> <br /> Use Grey knights termies as base ?<br /> More "ancient" weapons like swords,axes and maces,less chainswords?<br /> More banners and personal heraldry?<br /> <br /> Maybe post the paint-scheme.  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:23:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ OH!!! Knights of the zodiac.... <br /> <br /> kidding.<br /> <br /> The Knights Extermitus?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:29:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike78]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Why not soemthing to do <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(387);'>wth</span> cavaliers? Cavaliere/Chevalier/Kabalero/Cabellero. The Latin is Caballus.<br /> <br /> Or "The <i>something</i> Order".<br /> <br /> How would Caballus be pluralised? I don't speak Latin. The Caballi? Something like that?<br /> <br /> The downside is that people would associate it with a cabal, which is something different.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Jan 2009 23:59:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fifty]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Nice idea by the way. I am doing something similar on a less ambitious scale.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/225577.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/225577.page</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 4 Jan 2009 00:01:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fifty]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The chapter name is going to be one of the last things I deal with, unless something comes to me. I do plan on using "standard" looking <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> weapons and I may end up giving all of them a sword. I plan on naming them all (putting the name on the bases). Its a work in progress, originally I planned on doing a pre-heresy chapter but decided to go this route instead. Good ideas keep em coming when I get a guy finished Ill put up some pics but it may be a while as I still have about 200+ orks to finish painting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:53:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ da gob smaka]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I advise putting the names on the underside of the bases... that is unless you're not doing any basework]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 5 Jan 2009 23:55:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shrike78]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New marine chapter</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ names will be on the front of the base on a scroll (painted on scroll) and as it is very hard for a marine to actually die I may only have to write a new name on a base every so often.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Jan 2009 00:25:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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