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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey everyone,<br /> <br /> I'm trying to get my hands on a Vanguard Veteran Squad; which I'd like to arm mostly with power swords and lightning claws...<br /> <br /> But I notice that the only miniatures on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s site are all plastic (and thus armed in a set way, and buying them seperately looks to be a ripoff)..<br /> <br /> Does anyone have any tips as to how I can put together my own custom veteran squad?<br /> <br /> Could I get away with buying a combat squad and just gearing them up with some bitz?<br /> <br /> My biggest problem is the fact that I want them to be carried into battle in a Rhino/Razorback to cut down on points: Thus I don't want jump packs... so most of the metal figures are out of the question!<br /> <br /> Any solutions/help would be very much appreciated <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> *EDIT*<br /> <br /> Also looking at the wargear choices; is the option 'Lightning Claw' referring to a pair of Lightning Claws for 15 points or just one?<br /> <br /> If it's just one; could you replace the "free" bolt pistol with his lightning claw and keep a chainsword in his other hand?]]></description>
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				<title>I'm having problems putting together a Vanguard Veteran Squad... (Plastic please?! ¬_¬)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Henners91 wrote:</cite>Also looking at the wargear choices; is the option 'Lightning Claw' referring to a pair of Lightning Claws for 15 points or just one?<br /> <br /> If it's just one; could you replace the "free" bolt pistol with his lightning claw and keep a chainsword in his other hand?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just one lighting claw for 15 points; and yes you could have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(732);'>CS</span> but it would be pointless as you only get the +1 attack by having two lightning claws. Besides a bolt pistol is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> weapon.<br /> <br /> You can assemble the squad using whatever bits you want; besides the two veteran packs are almost all Vanguard and they are metal.  I have used parts from the terminator boxed set, assault box, command box, black templar and tactical box as well as a metal veteran as the sargeant. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Grim.Badger]]></author>
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				<title>I'm having problems putting together a Vanguard Veteran Squad... (Plastic please?! ¬_¬)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ i got an assault squad and with a bit of trickery made a vanguard squad, with jumpacks tho, i would suggest kustom building some of the weapons, like i did with lightning claw, you can try checking out my thread for ideas, i just used assault squad sprues and some bitz<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/249797.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/249797.page</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Aug 2009 16:27:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EarlyEscaper]]></author>
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				<title>Re:I'm having problems putting together a Vanguard Veteran Squad... (Plastic please?! ¬_¬)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here's one of mine; the lighting claws look a little large but you get used to them <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Made with a company Champion torso, lightning claws from the terminator kit, attached to chainsword arms from the assault marine kit.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/45892-Blood%20Angels%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Vanguard%2C%20Veteran.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/8/1/45892_sm-Blood%20Angels%2C%20Space%20Marines%2C%20Vanguard%2C%20Veteran.JPG" border="0" /></a><br /> <br /> EDIT: Pic changed to a painted version, need to re-think the glyphs I think  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:14:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grim.Badger]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's some nice work on a Marine with Lightening Claws. Usually people just slap Terminator arms on a Power Armoured Marine and it just looks tacky and lazy. Kudos!<br /> <br /> If you're going to put a Vanguard squad in a Rhino, it might be an idea to put them with a Librarian with Force Dome. They'll need the extra survivability for the turn between dismounting and charging. Another idea is to take a Chaplain, to make them Fearless and use his Litanies of Battle to make the unit hit hardest.<br /> <br /> Also, taking some regular schmoes with Chainswords and Bolt Pistols will give you some bodies to catch low <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> shots on without wasting hitting power. A Veteran or two with a Power Fist might also spread the unit's threat and give you some diversity in modeling.<br /> <br /> As for using plastic bits to make them look veteran-y, there's lots of sites out there where you can trade or buy specific armour bits to give them a unified and independent look. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:43:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nurglitch]]></author>
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				<title>Re:I'm having problems putting together a Vanguard Veteran Squad... (Plastic please?! ¬_¬)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Cheers <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  I found the only problem was removing the conduits and putting them back without looking rubbish. I was tempted to use a lot of purity seals etc but I'm planning a fancy paint job instead.<br /> <br /> Personally I will be using 5 twin lighting clawed vets with a chaplain and land raider to take out annoying enemy units sat in their deployment (Lootas etc).  I expect them to be difficult to use though :(  I always use a land raider anyway so that effectively costs me nothing, and I will be trying to use it to shield the vanguard from other enemy units so they don't get shot down after winning combats.]]></description>
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