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Firstly, if the Vanquisher was given a blast, then it would necessarily be a much tougher, only slightly more expensive Devil Dog, with a weapon that has 300% greater range, extra D6 at it's full range, with the only downside of one point of Ap. This would make the Devil Dog completly obsolete. This is probably what GW was trying to avoid when designing the rules for the vehicles.

My thought, is to add a co-axial heavy stubber or heavy bolter to the Vanquisher Cannon, which would allow a re-roll to hit if the co-axial weapon hits the desired target. This would make the Vanquisher cannon much more reliable, while keeping the roles for the Vanquisher and the Devil Dog seperate.

Any thoughts on this?

Valk]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360431.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360699.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360699.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher MEQ and Termi machine, tri-Heavy Bolters and you get a formidable anti-medium infantry badass). Meanwhile, the Vanquisher can ONLY be an anti-super-heavy-armor. And you get that at more points than the regular Russ.

My proposed solution? Well, the Vanquisher should be able to alternate fire that cannon like it did back in 2nd/3rd and in Imperial Armor. i.e.; Main Battle Cannon stats or the anti-armor Vanquisher rounds. True, this would neuter the use of regular Russes, but it would make Vanquishers worth the money buying from Forge World or the time converting them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360867.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360867.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher Str 8 2d6 pen ap 2 vanquisher shells and standard battle cannon str 8 ap 3 large blast shells and was priced at 5 points less then a Punisher. This is how the Vanquisher should have stayed. You pay a premium in points over the basic leman russ but it can fire both types of shells making it actually desirable to take. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1360887.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher
Kirika wrote:I agree with Skin. In the Armored Company rules the Vanquisher shot both Anti tank shells Str 8 2d6 pen ap 2 vanquisher shells and standard battle cannon str 8 ap 3 large blast shells and was priced at 5 points less then a Punisher. This is how the Vanquisher should have stayed. You pay a premium in points over the basic leman russ but it can fire both types of shells making it actually desirable to take.
Yes, that sounds familiar. As it currently is, the only pro to the Vanquisher is the extra AP, but you lose the pie plate, which is a MAJOR draw back 90% of the time. The only reason I would take a Vanquisher is if I were expecting more than one Land Raider, otherwise Lascannons are a better investment.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1361092.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/1361092.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher
Skinnattittar wrote:The main problem with the Vanquisher is that it is ridiculously priced for a one tone instrument. We are not talking about something like the Russ Main Battle Tank, which has the ability to perform all combat roles (arm with a Lascannon and Multi-Meltas and you have an anti-armor machine, arm with Plasma and a Lascannon and you have an anti-MEQ and Termi machine, tri-Heavy Bolters and you get a formidable anti-medium infantry badass). Meanwhile, the Vanquisher can ONLY be an anti-super-heavy-armor. And you get that at more points than the regular Russ.

My proposed solution? Well, the Vanquisher should be able to alternate fire that cannon like it did back in 2nd/3rd and in Imperial Armor. i.e.; Main Battle Cannon stats or the anti-armor Vanquisher rounds. True, this would neuter the use of regular Russes, but it would make Vanquishers worth the money buying from Forge World or the time converting them.


Well i guess alot of it is what are you fighting ? if you are fighting Ork Stompa's baneblades, ECT. i would think you would be willing to sacrafice some points for a Squadren of those puppys ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3706043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3706043.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher You can have a penetration round that adds a tank hunter esque bonus to vehicle damage and a round designed to kill transports that might inflict attacks on the contents of the target vehicle under certain circumstances. Maybe it uses gas or has some sort of flack it unloads upon delivery. Maybe just add the wounds you'd take if the tank blew up to any wrecked result or something.

The "poison the transport" gun was something I thought about for tyranid players who struggle with how their biomorphs cant hurt men in tanks very well. I feel like it could be a cool mechanic in this environ.

if not that, the tank deserves to cost less at the moment in my opinion, or maybe it could be piloted by special veterans to bring up it's effectiveness at it's job. I always wondered why trading pie plate (and almost always hitting something at bs3) was worth miss chance and extra penetration roll.

If it's the tank sniper of the Russ family, I say they should make it feel more like that. Either that or let it do something original.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3714025.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3714025.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher
though i do love the coaxil weapon idea]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3722736.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3722736.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher
IG book is full of "OP ideas" that dont play out well in game]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3723198.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3723198.page GMT Re:Leman Russ Vanquisher
If it were an upgraded round. Say a 10-20 point upgrade (like bastion-breachers for the Medusa) for a Leman Russ Battle Tank that could can be fired instead of the main cannon, then it'd be great ( IE so you can use either or).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3723279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/3723279.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher BS by 1 (like, tank commander or something, or skilled gunner) for like, 40pts, and I'd be fine with that, but otherwise, I would rarely field it unless I'm in Apocalypse (but I have apocalypse tanks that do the same stuff but better) or if I'm going up against Mech Guard or Marines, or maybe even Tau (good for sniping battlesuits across the board ;D)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5699809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5699809.page GMT Re:Leman Russ Vanquisher IA: Volume 1 Second Edition.

In short, co-ax weapon for +10pts, the option to use it as a Commissar tank or Company Commander (BS4 for ~15-20pts more), and the option for Beast Hunter shells, which cause instant death.

Vanquisher is now a dedicated and effective anti-tank option and MC hunter for ~200pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5699975.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5699975.page GMT Leman Russ Vanquisher ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5701460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/280942/5701460.page GMT Re:Leman Russ Vanquisher Thread is being locked due to thread necromancy.
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