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				<title>Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is just a for fun army for next weeks IEGA Wargamers Meet. My most likely opponent will be Chaos. I know it has a low model count, but I am hoping that the Shock and Aw will win the day.<br /> <br /> <br /> 2000 Pts - Space Wolves Roster - Winter Wolf Lord Battle Dancer's 2k Force<br /> <br /> Winter Wolf Lord: Battle Dancer [Logan] @ 275 pts<br /> The Grey Wolves [Wolf Guard] @ 415 pts<br /> -1x Wolf Guard in Power Armor (Melta Bombs; Frost Weapon x1; Storm Bolter x1)<br /> -9x Wolf Guard in Power Armor (Frost Weapon x9; Storm Bolter x9)<br /> <br /> Crocker [Canis] @ 205 pts<br /> -2x Fenrisian Wolf<br /> Winter Wolves Thunderwolf Cavalry @ 450 pts<br /> -1x Thunderwolf Cavalry (Thunderwolf Mount; Storm Shield x1; Thunder Hammer x1)<br /> -1x Thunderwolf w/ Mark of the Wulfen (Close Combat Weapon x1; Storm Shield x1)<br /> -3x Thunderwolf Cavalry (Melta Bombs; Close Combat Weapon x3; Storm Shield x3)<br /> <br /> Winter Wolves Grey Hunter Pack @ 225 pts<br /> -1x Grey Hunter (Bolter x1, Bolt Pistol x1, Power Fist x1, Wolf Standard x1)<br /> -1x Grey Hunter w/ Mark of the Wulfen (Bolt Pistol x1; Bolter x1; Close Combat Weapon x1)<br /> -1x Grey Hunter (Bolter x1, Plasma Pistol x1, Close Combat Weapon x1)<br /> -2x Grey Hunter (Plasma Gun x2, Bolt Pistol x2, Close Combat Weapon x2)<br /> -5x Grey Hunters (Bolter x5, Bolt Pistol x5, Close Combat Weapon x5)<br /> <br /> Blitz [Lone Wolf] @ 85 pts (Mark of the Wulfen, Close Combat Weapon x1; Storm Shield x1)<br /> -2x Fenrisian Wolf<br /> <br /> Winter Wolf Iron Priest @ 155 pts (Thunderwolf Mount; Thunder Hammer x1; Bolt Pistol x1)<br /> -4x Cyberwolf<br /> <br /> 3 Land Speeder Squadron @ 190 pts (Heavy Bolter x3; Typhoon Missile Launcher x3)<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am so glad I'm not going to have to fight this<br /> <br /> P.S. 200th Post...Yeah!]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Could be fun...just hope that there aren't any objectives to play with as it could be painful for you!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:32:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Unholy_Martyr]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If can clear the table who cares.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:46:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Granted the list is for fun...I have concerns about easy clearance...2 Vindicators could REALLY ruin this armies day...just the same as some Defilers could...Not to mention Chaos packs some pretty tough units that aren't easy to take down...just a thought.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:50:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Unholy_Martyr]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Pie can really ruin this lists day and ther're are some units that can bog it down, but then again I've watched Anpu clear 100+ Orks with a 15 man list in three turns so...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:21:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Fox Lord]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Unholy_Martyr wrote:</cite>Granted the list is for fun...I have concerns about easy clearance...2 Vindicators could REALLY ruin this armies day...just the same as some Defilers could...Not to mention Chaos packs some pretty tough units that aren't easy to take down...just a thought.</div></blockquote><br /> But if I am in Close Combat Vindis are useless.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:49:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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				<title>Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The biggest issue with this list is that you have no mobility outside the the big Thunderwolf Deathstar (and the Iron Priest I guess). That big Wolf Guard unit might scare the hell out of any infantry unit, but I don't have to worry about it at all until very late game (if at all) as it is too slow to catch anything. Deathstar units are not great choices to start with, but at the very least they need to be able to move fast enough to catch things, a slow Deathstar is just a waste of point. Basically this means I am free to concentrate everything on that Thunderwolf unit, even if I don't have S10 pieplates, sustained fire from an entire 2000pt army for 2 turns is going to cause it to drop and with a maximum of 6 missile launcher shots coming back at me for the first 2 turns (nothing else will have range) you can't do much about it.<br /> <br /> You also have very little anti tank firepower and even if you factor in assaults (which is a bad idea in any case, you want to kill transport with shooting so you can assault the contents) anything with AV13+ is going to really ruin your day. Notably any Dreadnought is going to have a field day against this list, you can only reliably deal with it with the Thunderhammer (which is going last) and any hits are going to be instant killing a Thunderwolf (3++ aside). Most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> lists which run ThunderWolves have melta units and Long Fangs to make sure they can still deal with Dreads and AV13+ and without them you will struggle.<br /> <br /> At the very least you should drop the Lone Wolf and get Rhinos for the Wolf Guard and Grey Hunters, and split the Typhoons up so they are 3 x 1 rather than a single squadron. However I wouldn't expect this list to do well against any serious competition and realistically needs some major reworking, probably involving dropping that massive Wolf Guard unit and taking several smaller <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> units in transports with combi-meltas.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:43:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would be giving the Wolf Guard Combi-Weapons, if could find them and I am not that great at converting anything that small.<br /> My Grey Hunters might have had Melta-Guns, once more if I could find them.<br /> I find the Lone Wolf one of my most Killy Units, normaly he destorys or beaks 3 infantry squads a game, this includes full sized Ork Mobs!<br /> Most of my other list do have 2 Long Fangs, like I said this is a For Fun List.<br /> <br /> This is also the Start of a new Great Company and do plan on expanding it.<br /> I don't now at the moment how I am going to tweak it, but I need to try it at least once]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:00:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmmm looks like my Chaos force is gonna chop up these Space Puppies this Saterday. An all calvery army vs. me sounds alots like target practice, as I stay at my edge of the table, for 3 turns. Shooting everything to bits, and 4th close combat with my Khorne Bezerks to mop up the board as my troops take objectives.....gonna get me some puppy scalps again hehehehe...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:10:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That wolf guard unit.... thats a lot of points for squad of pseudo grey-knights that is on foot... <br /> <br /> I personally can't see you doing well at all mate but good luck :( ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:18:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>EzeKK wrote:</cite>That wolf guard unit.... thats a lot of points for squad of pseudo grey-knights that is on foot... <br /> <br /> I personally can't see you doing well at all mate but good luck :( </div></blockquote><br /> Actualy that is the point of them.<br /> <br /> Here is thier Fluff<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Aug 2010 00:24:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Anpu42 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>EzeKK wrote:</cite>That wolf guard unit.... thats a lot of points for squad of pseudo grey-knights that is on foot... <br /> <br /> I personally can't see you doing well at all mate but good luck :( </div></blockquote><br /> Actualy that is the point of them.<br /> <br /> Here is thier Fluff<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That makes much more sense <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> If I were you I would at least think about including a rune priest for a cover save and to represent that this squad has some grey knight like characteristics (all <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>'s are psys) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Aug 2010 03:58:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am planing on adding a Rune Priest, I just need moar Plastic-Crack]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:46:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Experimental Logan/Canis Wing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Anpu42 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>EzeKK wrote:</cite>That wolf guard unit.... thats a lot of points for squad of pseudo grey-knights that is on foot... <br /> <br /> I personally can't see you doing well at all mate but good luck :( </div></blockquote><br /> Actualy that is the point of them.<br /> <br /> Here is thier Fluff<br /> <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/311939.page</a></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Fluff or not, I love taking <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> squads full of Storm Bolters too.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:16:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arctik_Firangi]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If I can find the Parts I want to also make a Termenator Verson of the Wolf Guard with Combi-Plasmas and Cyclones]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:18:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Anpu42]]></author>
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