<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
NOTE: Latest list here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/427683.page#3878567

* HQ (100pts)

* Librarian (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, Psyker)
Bolt Pistol, Null Zone, Power Armour, The Avenger

* Elites (125pts)

* Dreadnought (125pts)
Twin-Linked Autocannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

* Troops (645pts)

* Tactical Squad (205pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino (Repair, Tank), 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

* Tactical Squad (220pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Combi-Flamer

* Tactical Squad (220pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Combi-Flamer

* Fast Attack (270pts)

* Land Speeder Squadron (90pts)
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Land Speeder Squadron (90pts)
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Land Speeder Squadron (90pts)
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Heavy Support (360pts)

* Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

* Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

* Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

I'm very aware of the lack of Melta. The best platforms for them are MM/HF Speeders or MM Attack Bikes. How should I restructure the list to accommodate either?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873433.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873433.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873632.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
I have HB Razorbacks because of 2 reasons:
1. A TL HB for 5 points is slowed cheap.
2. It allows me to have more anti-transport on my Preds.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873672.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline In a gunline list, it would do awesome ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3873887.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3874098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3874098.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3874976.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3874976.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875018.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline MM attack bikes? It's not a lot but will probably slag a land raider if it's out of cover.

You could squad up the remaining two typhoons, drop one pred and take another 2 MM attack bikes. It's not always easy finding good lanes for three preds anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875519.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
Almarine, are you suggesting to field 4 MM Attack Bikes?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3875649.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876360.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
No Name (1490pts)
1500pt Space Marines 5th Ed (2008) Roster (Standard)

Selections:

* HQ (100pts)

* Librarian (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, Psyker)
Bolt Pistol, Null Zone, Power Armour, The Avenger

* Elites (125pts)

* Dreadnought (125pts)
Twin-Linked Autocannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

* Troops (645pts)

* Tactical Squad (220pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Combi-Flamer

* Tactical Squad (205pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino (Repair, Tank), 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

* Tactical Squad (220pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Combi-Flamer

* Fast Attack (380pts)

* Attack Bike Squadron (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics)
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta

* Attack Bike Squadron (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics)
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta

* Land Speeder Squadron (180pts)
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Heavy Support (240pts)

* Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

* Predator (120pts)
Autocannon, Lascannons

So do I understand correctly that you guys are suggesting to run 4 Attack Bikes?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876451.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876451.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876600.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
Only downside to running a bunch of attack bikes is they cost !MUCHOS DINEROS!

Personally I think I'd take rhinos over razorbacks here. With this setup you have to combatsquad two tactical squads or they don't get a ride. With a rhino you can choose, and all you lose is a TLHB. Even for running the librarian it will probably be better for you to stick him in a rhino with a combatsquad as you can cast avenger/flame out of the fire points that razorbacks don't have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876827.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline dev squad w/ 4 RL in there for 150 points? maby for a rhino and losing 1 marine off two squads? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876878.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876896.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3876896.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline TFC is still effective, just against transport (Av 10 vehicles). Yes, it does scatter, but its a 1/3 chance not to, and your firing 4 shots. Your bound to hit something right on and do some damage.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877052.page GMT Re:Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
Almarine wrote:Four attack bikes yes. 2x2.

Only downside to running a bunch of attack bikes is they cost !MUCHOS DINEROS!

Personally I think I'd take rhinos over razorbacks here. With this setup you have to combatsquad two tactical squads or they don't get a ride. With a rhino you can choose, and all you lose is a TLHB. Even for running the librarian it will probably be better for you to stick him in a rhino with a combatsquad as you can cast avenger/flame out of the fire points that razorbacks don't have.


I already have 2 Attack Bikes from the Vulkan list that I'm currently running (albeit there's something wrong with the list that I'm trying to figure out).

I am going to combat squad all of the Tacs in order to have the ML firing. I would have given them all Razorbacks if I had a 3rd upgrade sprue, but I only have 2. Might have to find a cheap one.

There are 2 reasons why I'm going Razorbacks over Rhinos in this list:

- It's a gunline. The guys inside are not going to be zooming around looking for targets, so the lack of firepoints does not concern me. In other lists, it would.
- A TL-HB for 5 points is the best deal for the weapon in the entire book. It also allows me to move my anti-infantry duty away from my Preds.

madman12367 wrote:Are you putting the marines inside the razorback, if you are you'll have to combat squad since they only hold 6 models, what about fitting a dev squad w/ 4 RL in there for 150 points? maby for a rhino and losing 1 marine off two squads?


No. Devastators are highly over-costed in this book and don't add much to this list that I don't already have.


For those of you suggestion a TFC, how should I modify the list to accommodate one? I've heard that they're never taken because of their fragility, but as someone else said, this is a gunline, this is a great list for it to be in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877705.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline dev squad is too expensive? For 50 more points than tfc you get 5 marines 4 templates, and can blow up most av pretty handily. Difficult for me to not see madmans point.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877905.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3877905.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline
Devil Dog wrote:Hmmm 150 points to put out a 4 Missle launcher dev squad is too expensive? For 50 more points than tfc you get 5 marines 4 templates, and can blow up most av pretty handily. Difficult for me to not see madmans point.


On the contary, you get 4 templates at S6 from a TFC, at 50 points less, with the ability to slow them down, increase cover in a ruin, and a handy techmarine (for vurtually no points) when the TFC blows up. TFC are so much more cost efficient.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3878343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/427683/3878343.page GMT Vanilla Marine 1500 gunline http://uma-musado.com/cgi-bin/mathHammer.cgi), I've determined I don't need my Preds to be Autolas since I have sufficient anti-tank, but not enough anti-horde.

I was able to fit in a TFC after changing my Preds to be Dakka Preds and dropping the Combi-Flamers from my Sarges.

Here's what the list looks like now:

1500pt Space Marines 5th Ed (2008) Roster (Standard)

Selections:

* HQ (100pts)

* Librarian (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics, Independent Character, Psyker)
Bolt Pistol, Null Zone, Power Armour, The Avenger

* Elites (125pts)

* Dreadnought (125pts)
Twin-Linked Autocannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

* Troops (625pts)

* Tactical Squad (205pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino (Repair, Tank), 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Boltgun

* Tactical Squad (210pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Boltgun

* Tactical Squad (210pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics)
Flamer, Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marine
* Razorback
(Tank)
Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter
* Space Marine Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Boltgun

* Fast Attack (380pts)

* Attack Bike Squadron (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics)
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta

* Attack Bike Squadron (100pts)
(And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Tactics)
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta
* Attack Bike
Multi-Melta

* Land Speeder Squadron (180pts)
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher
* Land Speeder
(Deep Strike)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

* Heavy Support (270pts)

* Predator (85pts)
Autocannon, Heavy Bolters

* Predator (85pts)
Autocannon, Heavy Bolters

* Thunderfire Cannon (100pts)

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