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				<description><![CDATA[ I think they should make a rule that allows the land speeder typhoon to carry flak missiles, so that  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> chapters that do not have access to flyers have an option for air cover of some sort instead of just an aegis defense line.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Nov 2012 17:54:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAllfather]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ For the record, you can get a Whirlwind-variant with Skyfire/Interceptor krak missiles, a Land Raider variant with Skyfire/Interceptor krak missiles instead of a heavy bolter, and a specialized BS5 Dreadnaught with Skyfire/Interceptor when stationary out of Imperial Armor Aeronautica. The Aegis line is far from their only means of defense.<br /> <br /> This would still be cool, though. How would you price it? Flakk on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Havocs is +10pts, so it should be at least +20pts since you've got two shots...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:12:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<title>Re:land speeders vs flyers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yea I think 20 points would be about right for 2 shots would be about right. It would give an army a good cheap way to protect against air threats.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 10 Nov 2012 21:25:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAllfather]]></author>
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				<title>Re:land speeders vs flyers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[  <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> It's not far capt'n! You all get that much <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and us Tau gots nutti'n! Anything in that Aeronautica book for Tau? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:04:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KnuckleWolf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There are two entries. One big ship and one small unit i belive?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 14:39:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Niiai]]></author>
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				<title>Re:land speeders vs flyers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Niiai are you referring to the different types of land speeder because in my codex i get the regular land speeder, the tornado, and the typhoon, and after some net research I found the forge world rules that allow me to use the tempest. (but I don't think the boss will allow me to shell out 50 bucks for one model)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:47:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAllfather]]></author>
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				<title>Re:land speeders vs flyers</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488188/4968249.page"><b>KnuckleWolf wrote:</b></a><br/> <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> It's not far capt'n! You all get that much <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and us Tau gots nutti'n! Anything in that Aeronautica book for Tau? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Just updated rules for all your flyers and super-heavy flyers. Barracuda (really cheap BS3 light flyer with an ion cannon and a missile pod), Tiger Shark (2-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> superheavy that transports fourteen Gun Drones around for some reason), Tiger Shark AX-1-0 (2-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> superheavy with a giant Apocalypse-scale twin-linked railgun (S D solid shot and S7/AP3/10" blast submunitions)), Orca (3-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> superheavy transport that can carry four Fire Warrior squads and six Battlesuits and have them all disembark via one access point in one turn), Manta (10-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(759);'>SP</span> superheavy giant lump of killy death), and Remora drones (squadrons of 1-5 cheap light flyers with twin-linked 36"-range burst cannons).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 15:58:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488188/4965947.page"><b>TheAllfather wrote:</b></a><br/>I think they should make a rule that allows the land speeder typhoon to carry flak missiles, so that  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> chapters that do not have access to flyers have an option for air cover of some sort instead of just an aegis defense line.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It makes no sense. The very means by which the Land Speeder operates makes it unable to shoot correctly at the sky. Also traditionally anti-air is either carried out by other air vehicles or ground support capable of staying rather stationary, which a Land Speeder wouldn't work well doing. They are all about fast recon and scouting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 16:56:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Godless-Mimicry]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/3564ec5577749982e0a7b4d8b2e12873.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488188/4968606.page"><b>Godless-Mimicry wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488188/4965947.page"><b>TheAllfather wrote:</b></a><br/>I think they should make a rule that allows the land speeder typhoon to carry flak missiles, so that  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> chapters that do not have access to flyers have an option for air cover of some sort instead of just an aegis defense line.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> It makes no sense. The very means by which the Land Speeder operates makes it unable to shoot correctly at the sky. Also traditionally anti-air is either carried out by other air vehicles or ground support capable of staying rather stationary, which a Land Speeder wouldn't work well doing. They are all about fast recon and scouting.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's what the Whirlwind Hyperios is for, in terms of generalist air cover. I can tell you that it's a Whirlwind that replaces its normal blast-artillery with a Skyfire/Intercept krak missile, I suspect that I'm forbidden by forum rules to go into more detail.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 17:42:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm grateful for the responses. It will help me flesh out my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army. I was just trying to find a cheap semi flyer for my army. Maybe put in the rules that if a land-speeder uses flak missiles it fired at minus 1 of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, if they are moving, or something like that. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:27:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ TheAllfather]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488188/4968851.page"><b>TheAllfather wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm grateful for the responses. It will help me flesh out my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army. I was just trying to find a cheap semi flyer for my army. Maybe put in the rules that if a land-speeder uses flak missiles it fired at minus 1 of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, if they are moving, or something like that. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Keeping the upgrade cost, that'd actually be reasonably balanced. I'd play against it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:13:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AnomanderRake]]></author>
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