Griddlelol wrote:
Any chance of making some of those LC terminators into TH/SS? You'll eat up more fire with the 3++ and you'll actually be able to hurt other terminators since the LCs are ap3. It'd be pretty horrible to be charged by tactical terminators and watch them blow through you with power fists.

 insertnamehere wrote:
Marines do not get Stormravens, do you mean the Stormeagle Gunship from Forgeworld?

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

 insertnamehere wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Only fliers start in reserve. Storm ravens arenGK and Blood Angels only

jffalaschi wrote:

 insertnamehere wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Only fliers start in reserve. Storm ravens arenGK and Blood Angels only

What about the Stormraven being listed as a Space Marine vehicle in the reference appendix in 6th edition rulebook? That got me confused...

 Happygrunt wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 insertnamehere wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Only fliers start in reserve. Storm ravens arenGK and Blood Angels only

What about the Stormraven being listed as a Space Marine vehicle in the reference appendix in 6th edition rulebook? That got me confused...

There are also pictures of flak missiles next to the missile launcher in the 6th edition book, but not everyone gets them.

Unless it is EXPLICITLY STATED in your codex that you get a unit, you do not get the unit, regardless of what the 6th ed book says. Codex trumps rulebook. The listed posted is illegal.

 Happygrunt wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 insertnamehere wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Only fliers start in reserve. Storm ravens arenGK and Blood Angels only

What about the Stormraven being listed as a Space Marine vehicle in the reference appendix in 6th edition rulebook? That got me confused...

There are also pictures of flak missiles next to the missile launcher in the 6th edition book, but not everyone gets them.

Unless it is EXPLICITLY STATED in your codex that you get a unit, you do not get the unit, regardless of what the 6th ed book says. Codex trumps rulebook. The listed posted is illegal.

MarkyMark wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 insertnamehere wrote:

jffalaschi wrote:

 phoenix darkus wrote:
50% of your army needs to start on the board (rounding down, does not include the fliers but counts HQs separately)
You have a total of 7 "units" (again, not counting fliers or pod but counting HQs separately), that means at least 3 must start on the board, the only 2 I see right now are the scouts squads.
I would swap the pod for a rhino to make this list legal.
I like the list overall, as you mentioned I think you might have a hard time dealing with hordes but otherwise I think you'll do well against anything else.

Enjoy!

From the latest Faq/Errata I understood that a unit transported in a vehicle that must start the game in reserves do not count towards the minimum units that must start in play. If that is the case, then my only two ground units would be the two scout units. I really tried not to use any tanks or ground vehicles because this would be against the overall "fluff" of the army. In the end I want a competitive list, but one that stays true to the Carcharodons theme. Thank you very much for the feedback!

Only fliers start in reserve. Storm ravens arenGK and Blood Angels only

What about the Stormraven being listed as a Space Marine vehicle in the reference appendix in 6th edition rulebook? That got me confused...

There are also pictures of flak missiles next to the missile launcher in the 6th edition book, but not everyone gets them.

Unless it is EXPLICITLY STATED in your codex that you get a unit, you do not get the unit, regardless of what the 6th ed book says. Codex trumps rulebook. The listed posted is illegal.

So no one gets storm talons then....

OP, It is in the FAQ that only BA and gk get the storm ravens bud and only codex SM get the storm talon

 Mr.Omega wrote:
Dug up some clarification on the Storm Raven shambles from a quick google search:



http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?345821-Is-the-StormRaven-now-avalable-to-all-marine-codexes

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
let's see the list, then!

optimusprime14 wrote:
I'm not a fan of the SR as delivery systems, and the list is still illegal if you plan on keeping the Termins and DC in reserve. The marines in the DP don't count but since the SR are not dedicated transports any unit in them counts towards the 50% rule. You have 5 units in reserve (not counting the actual SR and Tac squad in DP) vs 2 deployed. You could combat squad the Tac marines and that would help if you deployed 1 5 man but you would still need to deploy 1 other unit.

Also beware bad reserve rolls, you are starting with very little on the board. If you go 2nd you'll have to survive 2 tunrs with just 20 men and a drop pod. Even longer if your reserve rolls go against you.

 balsak_da_mighty wrote:

optimusprime14 wrote:
I'm not a fan of the SR as delivery systems, and the list is still illegal if you plan on keeping the Termins and DC in reserve. The marines in the DP don't count but since the SR are not dedicated transports any unit in them counts towards the 50% rule. You have 5 units in reserve (not counting the actual SR and Tac squad in DP) vs 2 deployed. You could combat squad the Tac marines and that would help if you deployed 1 5 man but you would still need to deploy 1 other unit.

Also beware bad reserve rolls, you are starting with very little on the board. If you go 2nd you'll have to survive 2 tunrs with just 20 men and a drop pod. Even longer if your reserve rolls go against you.

Units in vehicleses don't count for reserve. So he is fine. He is going to combat the terms in both Flyers and the DC and IC will be in 3rd Flyer. Only thing he has to deploy is his scouts and actully he could have one of them in reserve as well. As the IC are starting in the flyers as well. At least that is my understanding with the 50% reserve rules.

I am still alittle confused as to how you have the ravens for the Marine side of the list? Unless the new supplement allows this.