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				<title>1750 SM, meant for competitive!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ A few days back i posted a list for an upcoming tournament, received some feedback and i want to know what dakka thinks of my revised list.<br /> C&C are welcome and much needed!!<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Librarian with Null Zone, Gate of Infinity<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Sternguard Veterans 9 strong, 4x combi-meltas, 4x combi-plasma in Rhino<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Tactical Squad flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, combi-flamer, Rhino<br /> Tactical Squad flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, combi-flamer, Rhino<br /> Tactical Squad meltagun, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>, combi-melta, Rhino<br /> <br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> Stormtalon w/ Skyhammer missiles<br /> Stormtalon w/ Skyhammer missiles<br /> Attack Bike w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Predator, Auto/Las<br /> Predator, Auto/Las<br /> Thunderfire Cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> My biggest concern is my elites slot. Is the 300 point Sternquard squad worth it? Would some assault termies be better?<br /> <br /> What do you think?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:1750 SM, meant for competitive!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Pod the sternguard. Let them be a shock-and-awe unit. Drop them right in the center of your opponent with the libby, combat squad and unleash havoc. Meanwhile, you can move your rhino line forward for that optimal rapid fire. For the most part I like it...Though I fail to see how you have just an attack bike without a bike unit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:44:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ riverhawks32]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ One attack bike can be taken in a Fast Attack slot, that is possible.<br /> I have 50 points with nothing better to do them, that i why i chose it. It can be easily hidden in terain and possibly thereaten a big vehicle.<br /> <br /> I am reluctant to pod the Sterns, it is 400 points (Libby included)  that will get eaten alive first turn, even if they murder a unit or two...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:55:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In the rhino, they will be put down in the backfield having to walk across a field of fire.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:50:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ riverhawks32]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ With a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(427);'>GoI</span> librarian, they don't need to walk around much.  I use the gate/sternguard combo a lot, not even bothering to buy them a rhino.<br /> <br /> They are expensive, and just as fragile as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines.  But they can put out the hurt.  I run very light on the combis to keep the points down.  Try to make sure the only thing that can get a clean <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> on them is the unit they are about to blow apart.  But they do work well, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> are worth the points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:07:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>1750 SM, meant for competitive!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/7b5399245875a7de8dfd63fbbd340085.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488943/4982740.page"><b>Nevelon wrote:</b></a><br/>With a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(427);'>GoI</span> librarian, they don't need to walk around much.  I use the gate/sternguard combo a lot, not even bothering to buy them a rhino.<br /> <br /> They are expensive, and just as fragile as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines.  But they can put out the hurt.  I run very light on the combis to keep the points down.  Try to make sure the only thing that can get a clean <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> on them is the unit they are about to blow apart.  But they do work well, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> are worth the points.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Do you believe it is worth buying them a drop pod, or should they have no transport at all?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:49:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ spartiatis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Personally, I just walk, with no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span>.  This has been an issue in some games, particuarly vs. eldar.  Having an even chance of blowing my own brains out rathen then getting <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(427);'>GoI</span> off made for a lot walking.<br /> <br /> The pod lets them get to the fight first turn, no muss, no fuss.  Rhinos would also help with mobility, and keep small arms fire off the sternguard until you disembark.  If you have the spare points, take one.  But I don't think it's required.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:05:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nevelon]]></author>
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				<title>1750 SM, meant for competitive!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:08:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ phantommaster]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1173aea2f4800dd48efcb5fd44ee9585.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488943/4983672.page"><b>phantommaster wrote:</b></a><br/>You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> True, but do i need more troops? I already have 3 ful <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads for 1750 pts games..<br /> And are 5 assault termies better than 9 Sternguard??]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:40:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ spartiatis]]></author>
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				<title>1750 SM, meant for competitive!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488943/4984505.page"><b>spartiatis wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1173aea2f4800dd48efcb5fd44ee9585.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/488943/4983672.page"><b>phantommaster wrote:</b></a><br/>You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> True, but do i need more troops? I already have 3 ful <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads for 1750 pts games..<br /> And are 5 assault termies better than 9 Sternguard??</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 3 full <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads are not as durable as you would like to think.  More troops are always a good idea, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span>, I would take the termies as they are more durable especially with the libby in termie armor.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:41:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ riverhawks32]]></author>
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