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A few days back i posted a list for an upcoming tournament, received some feedback and i want to know what dakka thinks of my revised list.
C&C are welcome and much needed!!

HQ
Librarian with Null Zone, Gate of Infinity

Elites
Sternguard Veterans 9 strong, 4x combi-meltas, 4x combi-plasma in Rhino

Troops
Tactical Squad flamer, ML, combi-flamer, Rhino
Tactical Squad flamer, ML, combi-flamer, Rhino
Tactical Squad meltagun, ML, combi-melta, Rhino


Fast Attack
Stormtalon w/ Skyhammer missiles
Stormtalon w/ Skyhammer missiles
Attack Bike w/ MM

Heavy Support
Predator, Auto/Las
Predator, Auto/Las
Thunderfire Cannon


My biggest concern is my elites slot. Is the 300 point Sternquard squad worth it? Would some assault termies be better?

What do you think?

Pod the sternguard. Let them be a shock-and-awe unit. Drop them right in the center of your opponent with the libby, combat squad and unleash havoc. Meanwhile, you can move your rhino line forward for that optimal rapid fire. For the most part I like it...Though I fail to see how you have just an attack bike without a bike unit?

One attack bike can be taken in a Fast Attack slot, that is possible.
I have 50 points with nothing better to do them, that i why i chose it. It can be easily hidden in terain and possibly thereaten a big vehicle.

I am reluctant to pod the Sterns, it is 400 points (Libby included) that will get eaten alive first turn, even if they murder a unit or two...

In the rhino, they will be put down in the backfield having to walk across a field of fire.

With a GoI librarian, they don't need to walk around much. I use the gate/sternguard combo a lot, not even bothering to buy them a rhino.

They are expensive, and just as fragile as tac marines. But they can put out the hurt. I run very light on the combis to keep the points down. Try to make sure the only thing that can get a clean LOS on them is the unit they are about to blow apart. But they do work well, and IMHO are worth the points.

 Nevelon wrote:
With a GoI librarian, they don't need to walk around much. I use the gate/sternguard combo a lot, not even bothering to buy them a rhino.

They are expensive, and just as fragile as tac marines. But they can put out the hurt. I run very light on the combis to keep the points down. Try to make sure the only thing that can get a clean LOS on them is the unit they are about to blow apart. But they do work well, and IMHO are worth the points.

Do you believe it is worth buying them a drop pod, or should they have no transport at all?

Personally, I just walk, with no DT. This has been an issue in some games, particuarly vs. eldar. Having an even chance of blowing my own brains out rathen then getting GoI off made for a lot walking.

The pod lets them get to the fight first turn, no muss, no fuss. Rhinos would also help with mobility, and keep small arms fire off the sternguard until you disembark. If you have the spare points, take one. But I don't think it's required.

You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a SS Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.

 phantommaster wrote:
You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a SS Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.

True, but do i need more troops? I already have 3 ful tac squads for 1750 pts games..
And are 5 assault termies better than 9 Sternguard??

spartiatis wrote:

 phantommaster wrote:
You could have a Scouts Squad, 5 Termies and upgrade to a SS Termie Librarian if you take out the Sternguard and Attack Bike.

True, but do i need more troops? I already have 3 ful tac squads for 1750 pts games..
And are 5 assault termies better than 9 Sternguard??

3 full tac squads are not as durable as you would like to think. More troops are always a good idea, TBH, I would take the termies as they are more durable especially with the libby in termie armor.