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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey Guys,<br /> <br /> I am preparing a surprise for my brother for christmas.<br /> I want to assemble and paint a Grey Knights army as a gift. (because he really doesnt have the time to do it)<br /> Could use some help with the army list because I dont really have a clue as far as Grey Knights are concerned.<br /> the modelcount should be rather small  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> I was considering something like :  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Lord Kaldor Draigo<br />  - - - &gt; 275 P<br /> <br /> 3 troops <br />  <br /> 5 x paladis, 3 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 1 x nemesis-wardingstave, 3 x Stormbolter, 2 x Psycannon<br />  - - - &gt; 335 p<br /> <br /> <br /> 5 x paladins, 3 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 1 nemesis-wardingstave, 3 x Stormbolter, 2 x Psycannon<br />  - - - &gt; 335 P<br /> <br /> <br /> 9 x Terminators, 6 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 7 x Stormbolter, 1 x Psycannon, 1 x nemesis-wardingstave<br /> + Upgrade Justicar, nemesis-Psisword, Stormbolter  -&gt; 0 Pkt.<br />  - - - &gt; 395 P<br /> <br /> 2 Heavy Support <br /> <br /> Grey Knight Nemesis Dreadknight<br />  - - - &gt; 130 Punkte<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Purgation Squads<br /> 10 Grey Knights, 5 x nemesis-psisword, 5 x stormbolter, 4 x psycannons<br /> + Upgrade  justicar, nemesis-psisword, stormbolter  -&gt; 0 Pkt.<br />  - - - &gt; 280 Punkte<br /> <br /> <br /> In total Grey Knights : 1750<br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knights for Christmas</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Probably not the best place for this topic.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> General would be more appropriate.  <br /> <br /> However, no reason not to weigh in while I'm here.  How much are you looking at spending on models?  Does you know of any models he'd really like to have?  I think a Psyfleman Dread would really be a good option too, as I don't see any vehicles.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:01:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Dec 2012 23:06:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/492790/5045592.page"><b>Da_Runepriest wrote:</b></a><br/>Hey Guys,<br /> <br /> I am preparing a surprise for my brother for christmas.<br /> I want to assemble and paint a Grey Knights army as a gift. (because he really doesnt have the time to do it)<br /> Could use some help with the army list because I dont really have a clue as far as Grey Knights are concerned.<br /> the modelcount should be rather small  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <br /> I was considering something like :  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> Lord Kaldor Draigo<br />  - - - &gt; 275 P<br /> <br /> 3 troops <br />  <br /> 5 x paladis, 3 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 1 x nemesis-wardingstave, 3 x Stormbolter, 2 x Psycannon<br />  - - - &gt; 335 p <font color='red'>(Warding Staff I feel is a waste of points)</font><br /> <br /> 5 x paladins, 3 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 1 nemesis-wardingstave, 3 x Stormbolter, 2 x Psycannon<br />  - - - &gt; 335 P <font color='red'>(Warding Staff I feel is a waste of points)</font><br /> <br /> 9 x Terminators, 6 x nemesis-Psisword, 1 x nemesis-demonhammer, 7 x Stormbolter, 1 x Psycannon, 1 x nemesis-wardingstave<br /> + Upgrade Justicar, nemesis-Psisword, Stormbolter  -&gt; 0 Pkt.<br />  - - - &gt; 395 P <font color='red'>(Drop the Warding Staff, make this a FULL 10 man so you can combat squad and gain another scoring unit IF you need to)</font><br /> <br /> 2 Heavy Support <br /> <br /> Grey Knight Nemesis Dreadknight <font color='red'>(On foot he is too slow, you need to at LEAST give him a Personal Teleporter.  My suggestion would be PT and Heavy Incinerator.  On multiple occaions I have been a to shoot across the flank of a table and take out a unit on turn 1 like this)</font> <br /> - - - &gt; 130 Punkte<br /> <br /> Grey Knight Purgation Squads <font color='red'>(Drop this Completely they are a terrible unit.  If you are using this unit as fire support you need to be using Dreadnoughts with x2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons with Psybolt Ammo.  If you are wanting more power armor models on the table, you should be taking Purifiers same guns, better ablities)</font><br /> 10 Grey Knights, 5 x nemesis-psisword, 5 x stormbolter, 4 x psycannons<br /> + Upgrade  justicar, nemesis-psisword, stormbolter  -&gt; 0 Pkt.<br />  - - - &gt; 280 Punkte<br /> <br /> <br /> In total Grey Knights : 1750<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Also is there a reason why you are not considering Force Halberds at all?  I have found having the +2 Initative much more useful than having a 4++ in close combat.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Grey Knights for Christmas</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ With paladins you do not really need the extra initiative of a halberd and the force sword is decent defense against powerfists that can really ruin your day.<br /> <br /> <br /> the warding stave is a lot more powerful in 6th edition.  You can put all of The AP3 attacks on normal dudes.  The AP2 attacks are at a lower INT so you can put all of them on the 2++ save jerk til he dies.  Not mandatory, but it is very powerful against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies and other units with a lot of AP2 attacks.<br /> <br /> <br /> On Normal terminators, Halberds might be an option are they more vulnerable to normal wounds and could use the Extra INT.  <br /> Also make the normal termies 10 strong and give them a second psycannon.<br /> <br /> <br /> I find that the dreadknight needs a shooting weapon first.  If you have the points, you can give it a teleporter.  The best shooting weapon for it is the Incinerator.  Model and paint that weapon.  The teleporter is not as necessary to model so you can leave it off for now.<br /> <br /> <br /> Purgation squads are expensive for what they do.  A 10 man purifier unit can take 4 psycannons and it much stronger in the assault phase.  Their Psy power is not really helpful on a 24" weapon.<br /> You could change the unit into a purifier one, or into some Strike or Interceptor units which are a little more cost efficient.]]></description>
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