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				<description><![CDATA[ <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:</u> Coteaz <b>100 points</b><br /> <br /> <u>Troops:</u> 10 man Strike Squad <b>255 points </b>(2 psycannons, 1 halberd on justicar and 1 hammer on random guy, also psybolt ammo)<br />                10 man Strike Squad <b>255 points</b> (2 psycannons, 1 halberd on justicar and 1 hammer on random guy, also psybolt ammo)<br />                10 man Strike Squad <b>255 points </b>(2 psycannons, 1 halberd on justicar and 1 hammer on random guy, also psybolt ammo)<br />                 5 Death Cult Assassins, 4 Crusaders <b>135 points</b><br />                 5 Death Cult Assassins, 4 Crusaders <b>135 points</b><br />                 5 Death Cult Assassins, 4 Crusaders <b>135 points</b><br /> <br /> <u>Elites:</u> Vindecare Assassin 145 points<br />             5 Paladins 315 points ( 2 psycannons)<br />             Techmarine 106 points (2 servo skull's and rad grenades) <br /> <br /> <u>Fast Attack:</u> Storm Raven <b>205 points</b> (Multi-melt and Assualt Cannon)<br />                                Storm Raven <b>205 points</b> (Multi-melt and Assualt Cannon)<br />                                Storm Raven <b>205 points</b> (Multi-melt and Assualt Cannon)<br /> <br /> <u>Heavy Support:</u> DreadKnight <b>235 points</b> (teleporter + Heavy Incinerator)<br />                                       DreadKnight <b>235 points</b> (teleporter + Heavy Incinerator)<br /> <br /> _________________________________________________________________<br /> <br /> Well there is the list, just a few points shy of 3k. let me know what ya think, if it would be effective at all, the 3 henchmen units would be riding in the 3 stormravens and one of them would get the techmarine to go along with them<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> nothin?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Dec 2012 03:20:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbitere]]></author>
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				<title>Re:3k Grey Knight Strike squad noob list help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Few things<br /> <br /> 1) Double check your points costs.<br /> <br />  I think your strike squads are way under.<br /> I think that they should be 255 points with the equipment you listed.<br /> <br /> Your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span> units are over<br /> I think they are 135 points the way they are listed<br /> <br /> <br /> 2) Commenting on this list is difficult for a few reasons.<br /> <br /> First, 3k is not a very common tournament point level.  It is hard to know what you will be facing, so it is hard to say if what you have is good or not.<br /> Also, you are running a "all in" list.  If you are up against stuff your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span> are good against, you will dominate.  But if your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span> and Flyers are shut down, then you will loose big.<br /> <br /> <br /> All that said, I like your list, and I think it looks like a ton of fun. You are running a lot of the same stuff that I like to run.<br /> <br /> <br /> When you are playing with multiple units of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span>/Crusaders, your game plan starts with placing objectives.  <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span> do not assault well into cover, so you want as many objectives out in the open as possible, so your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(521);'>DCA</span> can assault and kill whatever is holding it.<br /> Crusaders have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>INV</span> saves, so it is not a big deal if you do not have cover to protect them when they are holding an objective.<br /> <br /> You want to place objectives so they are in the open, and also preventing your opponent from placing other objectives in cover.  it will make a big difference.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Dec 2012 11:53:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You were absolutely right thank you, and why isnt 3k very common? what is the closest common army point cost?<br /> Also, how are the 3 strike squads going to do, theyd be footslogging with no transport? should i replace the 3 strike squads and paladin squad for 1 10-man paladin  squad and a 10-man termie squad, or just 2 10-man termie squads? would that help my 'all-in" problem if it is even a problem?<br /> And ty for the objective advice<img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:44:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbitere]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> Strike Squads are pretty solid.  As long as  you keep them in the full 10 man squads, they are a threat to most everything.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Jan 2013 07:41:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Homeskillet]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ most tournaments run between 1500 to 2000 points, mostly for time issues.  More points than that and the games are too long to have 3-4 in a<br /> <br /> <br /> Strike squads are fine on foot, they work well that way, especially with psybolt ammo.<br /> <br /> <br /> "All In" lists are not bad.  It just means that you will win big or you will have a difficult uphill battle, (depending on the list, terrain, ect.)  You are unlikely to have a game where you feel evenly matched with your opponent.  You are doing everything you can to mitigate it by having some solid scoring units in the form of strike squads.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Jan 2013 07:49:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ svendrex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey does anyone think it would be worth it to replace one of the dreadknights with a dreadnought using twin autocannons]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Sep 2013 00:29:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbitere]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dreadknights are way more durable than dreadnoughts.  At 3k your opponent will have alot of stuff that will be able to fry a dreadnought pretty quickly, it will be hard for him to make his points back.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 10 Sep 2013 03:56:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ greyknight12]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9c14e8660ad786a7f74b46168ba33aec.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497394/6033899.page"><b>greyknight12 wrote:</b></a><br/>Dreadknights are way more durable than dreadnoughts.  At 3k your opponent will have alot of stuff that will be able to fry a dreadnought pretty quickly, it will be hard for him to make his points back.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They also fill different purposes.  I am concerned that long range turn 1 will be missed. <br /> <br /> I also usually take the sponsons on my stormravens, but I get any you wouldn't in this case.<br /> <br /> Dcas in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>Lrcs</span> is nice, but the heavy slots are hard to work in.]]></description>
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