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Pintle-mounted Storm Bolters, Heavy Stubbers, Shuriken Catapults and Cannons, Big Shootas, etc.

So the entry would read:

Gun, Str 4, AP 6, Heavy 3, Pintle-mounted, Defensive

No points would need to be addedto the already considerable cost for this additions anyway. I don't think it is OP in any way. And it stands to reason that the crew of a veicle engaging charging infantry in the open with the small arms mounts... sounds cinematic to me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5132873.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5132873.page GMT Re:Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
For example, FoW allows vehicle MGs to be fired in defensive fire vs. attacking infantry. I don't have my rulebook on hand, but I believe that the vehicle takes a -1 to it's armour stat to represent exposed crew/open hatches if the player elects to use pintle mounted MGs.

It would make assaulting vehicles a bit more interesting than closing hatches, turning off engine and sitting there awaiting powerfists ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136322.page GMT Re:Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
Grimaldus99 wrote:
I like the idea.

For example, FoW allows vehicle MGs to be fired in defensive fire vs. attacking infantry. I don't have my rulebook on hand, but I believe that the vehicle takes a -1 to it's armour stat to represent exposed crew/open hatches if the player elects to use pintle mounted MGs.

It would make assaulting vehicles a bit more interesting than closing hatches, turning off engine and sitting there awaiting powerfists


Thanks for the reply. That last bit made me chuckle as that more than perfectly describes the current state of infantry assaulting vehicles. Well said! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136399.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136399.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136528.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5136528.page GMT Re:Proposed Vehicle Overwatch MM on the LR Crusader variant. Pintle-mounteds, bolt-ons, and I'd like to see the other races benefit from the rule as well.

I think the inherent benefit of having a defensive pintle-mounted weapon is the 360' arc of fire versus, say, the shuriken catapults on the Eldar falcon, for example.

Thanks for the reply, Necrosis!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137624.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137624.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch LR variants then. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137666.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
zephoid wrote:
sponson weapons should be able to overwatch too. However, the weapon must be able to target the unit charging. Therefore you could very often avoid one sponson. HFlamer sponsons might actually be useful on ord LR variants then.

Sponson firing would make units of russes deadly. I wouldn't want to have to charge into the 6 heavy flamer wall of death.

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137766.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137766.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch AT resistance from shooting. They are serving exactly the purpose they are meant to in fluff. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137779.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch LRRs would be broken then. You could only decide to charge side armor (as if you could choose that easily...) to only get 1 flamestorm cannon and not 2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137844.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch LRRs are unused as is. Have you EVER seen one run? in ~200 games over 5 or 6 years i have seen one run in a friendly game. Im not seeing how this makes them broken. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137857.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5137903.page GMT Re:Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
Why not simply use a more interactive game turn and fix far more symptoms?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5143937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5143937.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
It would certainly make sense for Walkers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146589.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146589.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146671.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
i thought they couldnt...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146721.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch Ever wondered why infantry isn't running blindly towards a tank in real life ? that's because machineguns are deadly ...

And yes, assaulting a 3-LR unit with full flamers seem deadly, but then you're assaulting 510 pts (at least) of tanks kinda specialized in close quarters fighting]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146915.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5146915.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147032.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch afaik]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147049.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5147868.page GMT Proposed Vehicle Overwatch
open topped all units inside can fire overwatch.

being an ork player i enjoy this a lot


you can fire overwatch out of fire points so rhinos and such would only get a few shots but they still get some.
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mouskowitz wrote:
embarked units can already fire overwatch.

open topped all units inside can fire overwatch.

being an ork player i enjoy this a lot


you can fire overwatch out of fire points so rhinos and such would only get a few shots but they still get some.


My command squads unload with a heavy flamer, 3 flamers, and a few bolt pistol shots. Having the chimera also unload isn't really needed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5148295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/497958/5148295.page GMT