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				<title>Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Making good on my hobby resolution to paint more i've been ploughing through my Legion of Everblight and infinity models. However when using the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> inks i get a really glossy finish to the model that looks absolutley horrific. This never used to happen with the old range. Anyone else experienced this? I already hate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> for killing Devlan Mud (NEVER FORGIVE!!) but am i to write off ALL the new washes? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:33:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DiabolicAl]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Army Painter dark tone, strong tone, and soft tone inks....perfect substitutes for badab black, devlan mud, and grypphone sepia respectively.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:36:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/61b9e92fc5e7d99880517907b7bf5c1a.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499875/5166171.page"><b>greg0985 wrote:</b></a><br/>Army Painter dark tone, strong tone, and soft tone inks....perfect substitutes for badab black, devlan mud, and grypphone sepia respectively.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Thanks! Started experimenting with Strong Tone although im not prepared to declare it a PERFECT match for poor ol' Devlan its certainly close. The one that really threw me was Druchii Violet. It RUINED the skin tones i had beneath it with its glossiness. <br /> <br /> I guess ill be changing ink/wash supplier<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 03:39:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DiabolicAl]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If the finish is too glossy, try a matte varnish to tone the gloss down.<br /> <br /> Cheers]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 08:33:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ IK-Painter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just hit it with testers dull coat. Sorted!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:20:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Massaen]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The 'new' <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes need to be shaken thoroughly before use, otherwise they do leave a glossy finish. After one mishap with Carroburg Crimson I've not had any problems with my washes if I ensure that I've shaken them well.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 12:30:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sockwithaticket]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Spray a flat coat on the model, or if you are afraid of misting, use Vallejo's brush on matte varnish.<br /> <br /> Otherwise, use Army Painter tones to replace <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes.  More volume for less price, with a better result.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:13:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AegisGrimm]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im terrified of using spray varnish after having stuff ruined by frosting. Ill give the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes a vigorous shaking and hopefully that will sort it. If not ill look elsewhere. <br /> <br /> Cheers all!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:36:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DiabolicAl]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Vallejo makes a line of Game Color that has Gloss, Matte, and Satin varnishes, they brush on like normal acrylic paint.  They go on kind of a milky white, and then dry perfectly clear.  I love 'em and suggest them. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:38:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AegisGrimm]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Those recommending Army Painter's washes are right in promoting them (I actually prefer Dark Tone to Badab Black), but the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> mentioned Druchii Violet as being problematic so I'd wager would prefer alternatives to washes that aren't the basic black, brown and sepia. <br /> <br /> Should shaking your existing washes not correct the issue  I'd return it to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and get a replacement/money back. if the latter then i know Vallejo do some washes, though my only experience has been with their pale grey one. It's good, offering a colour I'd not seen elsewhere, but is thicker than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> washes so needs thinning a little. Secret Weapon also does a wide range of washes but I have no firsthand experience of them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:49:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sockwithaticket]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Also to dull down any shiny surface you could use a mix of Elmers(pva) glue and water. About a 25/75 mix works just fine and it protects too. Dries clear.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:49:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gundor]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't the army painter dips leave a glossy finish anyway? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:56:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eldercaveman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use Vallejo Matte Varnish spray, works like a charm. You get even better results from using an airbrush. You can also look into Liquitex's Matte Varnish as well. Just keep in mind that if you are using a brush just in thinned-out layers with water. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:59:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Einhänder]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Problem with GW Washes</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/499875/5168779.page"><b>Gundor wrote:</b></a><br/>Also to dull down any shiny surface you could use a mix of Elmers(pva) glue and water. About a 25/75 mix works just fine and it protects too. Dries clear.</div></blockquote><br /> For a while, at least. PVA glue can go milky over time... I believe it's to do with the glue reabsorbing moisture out of the air, as PVA never actually 'sets' completely. It's not a stable reaction like superglue or a proper sealer.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:45:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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