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Making good on my hobby resolution to paint more i've been ploughing through my Legion of Everblight and infinity models. However when using the new GW inks i get a really glossy finish to the model that looks absolutley horrific. This never used to happen with the old range. Anyone else experienced this? I already hate GW for killing Devlan Mud (NEVER FORGIVE!!) but am i to write off ALL the new washes?

Army Painter dark tone, strong tone, and soft tone inks....perfect substitutes for badab black, devlan mud, and grypphone sepia respectively.

 greg0985 wrote:
Army Painter dark tone, strong tone, and soft tone inks....perfect substitutes for badab black, devlan mud, and grypphone sepia respectively.

Thanks! Started experimenting with Strong Tone although im not prepared to declare it a PERFECT match for poor ol' Devlan its certainly close. The one that really threw me was Druchii Violet. It RUINED the skin tones i had beneath it with its glossiness.

I guess ill be changing ink/wash supplier

If the finish is too glossy, try a matte varnish to tone the gloss down.

Cheers

Just hit it with testers dull coat. Sorted!

The 'new' GW washes need to be shaken thoroughly before use, otherwise they do leave a glossy finish. After one mishap with Carroburg Crimson I've not had any problems with my washes if I ensure that I've shaken them well.

Spray a flat coat on the model, or if you are afraid of misting, use Vallejo's brush on matte varnish.

Otherwise, use Army Painter tones to replace GW washes. More volume for less price, with a better result.

Im terrified of using spray varnish after having stuff ruined by frosting. Ill give the GW washes a vigorous shaking and hopefully that will sort it. If not ill look elsewhere.

Cheers all!

Vallejo makes a line of Game Color that has Gloss, Matte, and Satin varnishes, they brush on like normal acrylic paint. They go on kind of a milky white, and then dry perfectly clear. I love 'em and suggest them.

Those recommending Army Painter's washes are right in promoting them (I actually prefer Dark Tone to Badab Black), but the OP mentioned Druchii Violet as being problematic so I'd wager would prefer alternatives to washes that aren't the basic black, brown and sepia.

Should shaking your existing washes not correct the issue I'd return it to GW and get a replacement/money back. if the latter then i know Vallejo do some washes, though my only experience has been with their pale grey one. It's good, offering a colour I'd not seen elsewhere, but is thicker than GW washes so needs thinning a little. Secret Weapon also does a wide range of washes but I have no firsthand experience of them.

Also to dull down any shiny surface you could use a mix of Elmers(pva) glue and water. About a 25/75 mix works just fine and it protects too. Dries clear.

Don't the army painter dips leave a glossy finish anyway?

I use Vallejo Matte Varnish spray, works like a charm. You get even better results from using an airbrush. You can also look into Liquitex's Matte Varnish as well. Just keep in mind that if you are using a brush just in thinned-out layers with water.

Gundor wrote:
Also to dull down any shiny surface you could use a mix of Elmers(pva) glue and water. About a 25/75 mix works just fine and it protects too. Dries clear.

For a while, at least. PVA glue can go milky over time... I believe it's to do with the glue reabsorbing moisture out of the air, as PVA never actually 'sets' completely. It's not a stable reaction like superglue or a proper sealer.